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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-13-07 07:14 PM
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OMG! Both Chris Hitchens and Newt Gingrich are Coming to Raleigh, NC ..This Week!
Edited on Sun May-13-07 07:48 PM by KoKo01
Why is our "Purple State" so BLESSED to have BOTH Hitchens (with his book about GOD) and Gingrich (Pig, Fornicator, Multiple Marriages) coming to the Capitol of our State in RALEIGH, NC!

BOTH here in the SAME WEEK...BACK TO BACK!

Chris Hitchens is going to appear at the UU CHURCH where the "Progressive Activists of NC" will tear the flesh from his bones! Newtie appears at "Liberal Leaning" Quail Ridge Books to spout off the Night AFTER Hitchins!

I've got my wine bottles ready to throw at "Hitch" and I'm waiting to "make signs" for Gingrich!

Why is North Carolina SO BLESSED to have BOTH HITCH AND GINGRICH TOGETHER in the SAME WEEK?

I don't know? :crazy:

http://www.newsobserver.com/opinion

A meeting of unlike minds
Christopher Hitchens, a Goliath of an author, and Adam English, a David of an academic, stage a holy war of words
J. Peder Zane, Staff Writer

Tuesday is fight night at the Unitarian Universalist Fellowship in Raleigh. The pre-bout buzz suggests two likely scenarios: Either we'll see the lamb to the slaughter or an upset on the order of David and Goliath. In one corner will stand Christopher Hitchens, the famous columnist for Vanity Fair and Slate who has used his vast erudition and slashing wit to eviscerate subjects from Bill Clinton and Henry Kissinger to Mother Teresa. Pugnacious and polemical, he believes that the only thing the meek will inherit is the wind.

In the other corner will be Adam C. English, an assistant professor of religion and philosophy at Campbell University in Buies Creek. He's already predicting defeat.

"I'm going to lose or at least certainly not win," English said. "Hitchens is a very skilled debater who's had every question thrown at him."

English, however, believes he has one almighty advantage: He has God on his side.

That may (or may not) prove decisive given the topic of their debate: the arguments Hitchens advances in his new book, "God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything" (Twelve, $24.99, 307 pages). A lacerating and irreverent attack on all forms of faith -- especially Judaism, Christianity and Islam -- Hitchens' book details why he considers religion a "dangerous fantasy" that produces far more evil than good.

To promote his book, Hitchens, 58, who was reared in Britain but became a U.S. citizen last month, has arranged a series of confrontations with believers in various cities, including London, Washington, San Francisco, Seattle and New York, where he squared off with the Rev. Al Sharpton.

"I haven't written a book to help atheists win the argument," Hitchens said during a phone interview, "though that is the principal purpose of it. I have written a book that I hope will discomfort the faithful. So it seemed necessary to make myself available to them, to see if they want to challenge me in turn."

English, 33, a scholar who also serves as an interim minister at Pleasant Grove Baptist Church in Willow Spring, welcomes that challenge.

"Christians have a responsibility to hear the other side," he said in a phone interview. "If we are convinced we have the truth, then we should be open to anyone questioning that truth. ... I don't think God is afraid of questions or people seeking the truth. If we have the answers, that will come out; if we don't, that will as well."

Atheists push back

"God Is Not Great" is part of a spate of high-profile books that have challenged religious belief -- "The End of Faith: Religion, Terror, and the Future of Reason" by Sam Harris (2004), "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins (2006) and "Breaking the Spell: Religion as a Natural Phenomenon" by Daniel C. Dennett (2006). Hitchens says he and those authors call themselves "the four Musketeers," who are leading "a resistance, a push-back to an excess of clerical and religious bullying and stupidity in the recent past by a lot of people who have had enough of it. ...

"For too long, atheists have been told to keep their views to themselves," he said. "I didn't come to America to keep my mouth shut."

During the interview, Hitchens listed a series of events that galvanized him: The Ayatollah Khomeini's 1989 fatwa calling for the assassination of his dear friend, the writer Salman Rushdie; the rise of the religious right in America; the unwillingness of politically correct leftists to confront most religious extremism; religious opposition to stem cell research, Darwinism and the distribution of condoms to fight AIDS in Africa; the attacks of 9/11; and the war in Iraq, which Hitchens vocally supports as a battle against the type of sectarian religious violence now destroying that country.

His book enumerates other acts: the burning of witches, the Spanish Inquisition, the genocide in Rwanda, the Taliban's reign of terror in Afghanistan, the Catholic Church's pedophile priest scandal, and what he calls religion's historic support for racism and sexism and opposition to science and free inquiry.

"Violent, irrational, intolerant, allied to racism and tribalism and bigotry, invested in ignorance and hostile to free inquiry, contemptuous of women and coercive toward children: organized religion ought to have a great deal on its conscience," he writes.

-snip-

"Religion is always going to be a soft target. Religions have been around for thousands of years, they have accumulated thousands of years of atrocities. The sheer number of religious people means there will always be plenty who will do bad things. I won't excuse that, but I won't blame that on God."
More at...........

http://www.newsobserver.com/opinio
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-13-07 07:21 PM
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1. I would love to see Hitchens hand English his ass...nt
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-13-07 08:22 PM
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2. Here's Link to Gingrich in Raleigh...(got left off my OP)
*CHRISTOPHER HITCHENS APPEARANCE IN RALEIGH!*

Thursday, May 17, 2007
*Newt Gingrich discusses "Pearl Harbor: A Novel of December 8th" sponsored by John Locke Foundation. Time: Noon; Cost: $50. Event will be held at Sisters' Garden and Catering Company, 2400 E. Millbrook Road, Raleigh, NC 27604. For more information visit http://johnlocke.org/events / or contact Mitch Kokai at 919-828-3876 or mkokai@johnlocke.org <mailto:%20mkokai@johnlocke.org> . Additional Information: Just as they did in their blockbuster "alternate history" novel, Gettysburg, former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich and historian co-author Bill Forstchen have created an exciting "alternate history" novel, based on the "what if" question of Pearl Harbor. Join Newt Gingrich as he discusses his newest book, "Pearl Harbor: A Novel of December 8th."*


http://www.wakerepublicanwomen.org /
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-13-07 08:35 PM
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3. These venues are going to need a good cleaning after these guys leave town...
Don't forget to ask Newt how he feld accusing Bill Clinton of engaging in an affair and speaking passionately about his moral failure requiring that Clinton be impeached and removed from office, WHILE HE WAS ENGAGING IN AN EXTRA-MARITAL AFFAIR AT THE SAME TIME.

You might want to remind Newt that waiting until his wife was in the hospital to serve her with divorce papers was a nice touch FOR A COWARD.

Plus, Does He(Newt) believe that his three(3) marriages will give him the platform he needs to help him win over the conservative fundamentalists of the Republican Party?
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-13-07 09:41 PM
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4. Time To Hire Those Mayan Priests
Your area could use a little fumigation after their visits!
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 10:53 AM
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14. 30 minutes at that UU Church, he'll be WISHING he was dealing with Mayan Priests.
Edited on Mon May-14-07 10:54 AM by dicksteele
I had some friends who went there, and met some
other members of the congregation through them.

My general impression of all of them (and inferred
re: others they spoke of) was: They are very intelligent people;
but more than just that: Well-educated, well-rounded, and well-informed.
And they actually CARE about stuff.

Long story short: the Raleigh UU Congregation is the audience of Hitchens' nightmares.

Either that, or it soon will be.

I almost pity the fool.

Almost.

(Edited because I failed to properly spell the number "30". WhoodaThunkIt?)
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-13-07 09:43 PM
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5. Two blowhards with huge egos descending on Raleigh. nt
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-13-07 09:53 PM
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6. Lock up the liquor and the women
get your guns ready. Chris 'n' Newts acomin' to town
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 10:06 AM
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8. Hell, I think women w/ guns
would be a fun welcoming party for both. :P :D
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 10:41 AM
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11. I was going to post the exact same thing.
:hi: Lock your liquor cabinets and spirit the women to protective shelter because Tipsy McStagger and Grabby McAdultery are a comin' to town.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 10:05 AM
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7. Is this the UU church on Wade Ave?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 10:27 AM
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9. Must be....we only have one UU that I know of.. Should be
interesting because our UU's are very active in all the Anti-Iraq Invasion/Occupation demonstrations.

I guess the RW'er will turn out and so will those who dislike Hitchens.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 10:38 AM
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10. I think I'd like to see this
if only for the carnival factor.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 05:47 PM
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16. I'm going to try to get there....I think it's an EVENT of the Century in NC
but..I'm probably OTT on this. If Hubby and I can make the event should we wear a "DU Indentifier?"
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Nunyabiz Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 08:48 PM
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17. I tried to get there
Edited on Tue May-15-07 08:51 PM by Nunyabiz
Went at about 6:45 and there were cars lined up for blocks and being turned away, only about 450-500 got in and I would guesstimate at least 2000+ showed up. Most everyone I talked to outside were all Atheist (like myself) who were hoping to see Hitchens flog yet another delusional psychotic. The poor Theist doesn't stand a chance against factual reality backed up by science, reason & rational thought.
Supposedly Quail Ridge Books is going to record the debate and link to it online.

This event should have been held at a MUCH larger venue, as Hitchens, Harris, Dawkins and Dennet all say and I fully agree there are FAR MORE Atheist/Agnostics in this country than are being reported by BS polls and MSM.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 10:51 AM
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13. That's the only one I know of in R-town.
I am thinking about driving out there to see Hitchens. We certainly don't see eye to eye on many issues, but I've enjoyed his contributions to "Free Inquiry" on matters of faith/nonfaith very much.

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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 10:42 AM
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12. Don't forget to stock up on Raid!
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 11:44 AM
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15. Here is a fun idea... Someone ask Hitchens to take a breathalyzer before he starts...
WE could run a pool ... closest to his BAC(blood alcohol content) wins!
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