The planned Islamic Community Center is NOT a mosque, and will NOT be at Ground Zero

[Hugabear]

I posted this as a reply in another thread, but I figured I'd start a new thread for this since there appears to be a huge misconception over what's actually going on. It doesn't help that the right-wing hatemongers are deliberately distoring the facts in their usual Muslim-hatefest. But it's highly disappointing to see the mainstream media circulating this misconception.

It's not a mosque. It's a community center. And it will be a couple blocks away from Ground Zero. It's not going to be part of Ground Zero.

If you want to learn more about the Cordoba House - that's the name of the proposed center - read about it here: http://www.cordobainitiative.org/?q=content/cordoba-house-new-york-city

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[Ken Burch]

4. Undoubtably, aquart's on most of them.

n/t.

[aquart]

10. LOL!

Not a perceptive soul, I see.

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[AlabamaLibrul]

17. You forgot one thing

They hate us for our freedom.

I find it disgusting that you think Americans and Jews are the only people who deserve not to be murdered in "large swathes".

Americans?
Jews?
Be my guest to large swathes of "the rest"?

Doesn't EVERYONE have the "right to exist", to borrow a phrase?

[marmar]

19. "Arrogant Community Center"

Wow. Just wow.

[Obamanaut]

18. Why disalow 'muslim-bashing'? Christian (and other religion) bashing

seems to be allowed here.

Allowing the community center to be built will be just another tax-exempt entity using city services for which they pay no taxes. If this were a baptist or some other religious group there would be objections.

[Ken Burch]

3. It's only "arrogant", if you assume that ALL Muslims are to blame for 9/11

99% of them condemned it. Isn't that ENOUGH?

Also, as you should remember, a lot of Muslims worked at the WTC and died on 9/11. It was not exclusively a loss of Judeo-Christian life.

And we can assume that a center of this kind would make reconciliation and healing a major part of its mission.

And an Islamic Community Center, as has been repeatedly pointed out to you, is neither a mosque nor a "shrine".

If you don't like the idea, please don't be deliberately inaccurate in your arguments.

Your post is childish and beneath you.

[NYC Liberal]

7. I was there.

Does this only apply to Muslims? What about Christian terrorists, should churches be banned around the sites of their attacks?

It's not a fucking "Muslim shrine" any more than a YMCA is a fucking "Christian shrine."

[aquart]

11. I've never seen much evidence of Christianity at my Y.

Just decency...and currently some very high prices. What murders have Christian terrorists committed in downtown Manhattan lately?

Honestly, such a poor analogy...when St. Paul's was the beacon of hope after 9/11. Can you walk in to that churchyard and not cry when you see the stump of the tree that died protecting that church?

I loved that our churches stood. They knew how to build back when.

[JonLP24]

12. Please

drop the religion when you talk about the terrorists. That may be the religion they grew up with but they violate the Qu'ran in so many ways they are not true believers. With well over 1 billion followers it is safe to say most do not commit terrorist acts. Also it is very likely that Muslims were killed during those attacks.

If there was a terrorist attack committed by someone who happened to be Christian I wouldn't oppose of a church or community center either.

[NYC Liberal]

13. Christian terrorists have killed plenty in this country.

So until you start advocating a ban on churches near those sites, I will not take your righteous indignation seriously.

I cry for the lives that were lost, not for buildings.

And I'm sorry, but you are taking this out on the wrong people. Your enemies are not Muslims. Your enemy is not a community center. This city came together after those attacks and your attitude only serves to divide and create unnecessary conflict between people.

[gerenimox]

15. christian terrorists have killed a million in Iraq.

does that even count?

[NYC Liberal]

20. Sadly, it probably doesn't to many. nt

[dipsydoodle]

5. Not much point in posting

the truth. It will just be dissed as is the case with the actual truth on other subjects here of late on DU.

Rec'd.

[Ken Burch]

6. Proud to be the 5th rec.

Thanks for committing truth.

[NYC Liberal]

8. If they call that a "mosque" then YMCAs are churches.

:eyes:

Recced.

[Ken Burch]

22. If YMCA's are churches, that'd be news to THESE guys:

[Motown_Johnny]

14. it was my understanding that the community center included a Mosque

I am not against this being built so I have not looked into it very closely. Even if it was a free standing building devoted entirely to being a place of worship for followers of Islam, they have that right.



My assumption, which may be totally incorrect, is that this Mosque inside the community center would be something similar to a "chapel" instead of being a free standing "church".

[polmaven]

16. You are 100% correct...

It is just that - A COMMUNITY CENTER - and I believe the site is just where it should be. After all, 9/11 was not carried out by "Muslims". It was carried out by extremists using the Muslim name! It was done out of sheer hate. The Muslim religion is not a hateful one, but was twisted by these criminals.

I think the Cordoba House may actually be very good to help illuminate many of our own people who are ignorant of the religion about them.

[donheld]

21. Please stop disturbing people with facts

They can be so annoying.