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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 12:49 PM
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Map of "Ground Zero" and Cordoba House, to provide perspective
For those of you who already know this, my apologies.

As you can see from this aerial photo, Cordoba House will not be able to be seen from Ground Zero. The buildings on Vesey and Barclay Street are in the way. The address of Cordoba House is 45 Park Place, for those of you who wish to use your own map.



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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 01:03 PM
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1. Parts of the 9/11 plane went through the roof and the two top floors of the cordoba house location.
Not two blocks away. Right smack dab there. Irony is if cordoba house had been located there at the time of the attack there would have been victims of that attack at that exact location. Then everyone would call it ground zero.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 02:32 PM
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3. I wouldn't care in those circumstances, either. Seriously. I guess my
blase live-and-let-live attitude comes from decades of living among large numbers of secularized muslims here in SoCal. We have several Islamic Centers here in the valley (Islamic Centers of Southern California is the umbrella organization) and you'd never know it unless you drove by one. They are unobtrusive clusters of 50's and 60's vintage cardboard boxes just like so many christian churches here. No minarets, no muezzins calling the faithful to prayer, just an ordinary house of worship.

The Lutherans are more noticeable than the muslims here.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 02:43 PM
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4. bullpuckey. it's two (city) blocks from one of the twin towers & 3-5 from the other.
give it a rest with the mosque & "illegal" immigrants already.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 05:00 PM
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13. you seriously believe a place 2 blocks from wtc would be called "ground zero" if people
had been killed there? Good grief
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 06:45 PM
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15. 2 blocks away.
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 01:39 PM
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2. Looks to me to be
about 600 feet away.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 02:54 PM
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5. = .12 miles. catholic church = 50 feet away, episcopal 200 feet away, etc.
multiple churches as well as buddhist & jewish institutions within 4-5 blocks.
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 04:16 PM
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8. Not to mention an already existing mosque another 2 blocks up.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 04:42 PM
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11. which is located here...
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 07:55 PM
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16. not to mention 5 churches, 3 synagogues, 1 buddhist temple, 1 court of orthodox judaic law,
Edited on Sun Aug-15-10 07:56 PM by Hannah Bell
1 christian cemetery -- so what?
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 04:05 PM
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6. K & R
:thumbsup:
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 04:15 PM
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7. Shouldn't matter either way. This is frickin' America, Dude
Some people wouldn't recognize the First Amendment if it hit 'em smack in the face.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 04:35 PM
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10. You assume I disagree with you. I don't....
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 04:52 PM
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12. I don't assume that
But any argument about proximity undercuts that Constitutional argument. It suggests that there is some sort of imaginary "comfort zone," and as long as the building is outside of that zone, everything is fine.

You know, personally, I'm pretty creeped out by people who fetishize the image of a bloody, half-naked man with nails driven through his feet and hands. (Bill Hicks famously likened it to admirers of JFK wearing Mannlicher-Carcano pins in their lapels.) But I can't do a thing about it. Nor would I try. That's because I respect the Constitution. That bizarre tradition is protected by the First Amendment. As are the magic underpants. As is any other religious institution or tradition.
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 04:16 PM
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9. A picture's worth a thousand words...
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 06:44 PM
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14. Actually, that picture's worth a lot more than a thousand words!


Great job! Did you create it?
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 08:03 PM
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18. effin' brilliant.
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rbixby Donating Member (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 08:01 PM
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17. I fail to see why its even an issue
Its not like the 'central imam', or 'islamic pope' (since there isn't one) conspired to have 9/11 happen. These folks just want to build their damn community center. Who cares what the location is? All it does is speak volumes to the intolerance of so many people against Islam.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 12:03 AM
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19. Great, now we can call it the "Park Place Mosque" !
Drop that "Ground Zero Mosque" meme.
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