Coulter on Falwell--this is one for the ages a *MUST READ*

[underpants]

Ann is much of a writer to start with but she directly counterdicts herself and then RE-counterdicts herself immediately there after and over all she paints herself into the same general "a$$hole" corner that Jerry did.

If you were worried that the great and godly Ann hadn't mentioned "fisting" in a while-your wait is over.

Read and "enjoy". When I saw the title I was expecting a scathing article --- turns out you can almost smell the gin coming off the original.

:wow:

JERRY FALWELL -- SAY HELLO TO RONALD REAGAN!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucac/20070516/cm_ucac/jerryfalwellsayhellotoronaldreagan

Falwell was a perfected Christian. He exuded Christian love for all men, hating sin while loving sinners. This is as opposed to liberals, who just love sinners. Like Christ ministering to prostitutes, Falwell regularly left the safe confines of his church to show up in such benighted venues as CNN.

Let me be the first to say: I ALWAYS agreed with the Rev. Falwell.

Actually, there was one small item I think Falwell got wrong regarding his statement after 9/11 that "the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians -- who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle -- the ACLU, People for the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their face and say, 'You helped this happen.'"

First of all, I disagreed with that statement because Falwell neglected to specifically include Teddy Kennedy and "the Reverend" Barry Lynn.

:rofl::wow::bounce::woohoo:

There have always been gay people -- even in the http://www.thefreedictionary.com/prelapsarian">prelapsarian '50s that Jerry Falwell and I would like to return to, when God protected America from everything but ourselves.

What Falwell was referring to are the gay activists -- the ones who spit the Eucharist on the floor at St. Patrick's Cathedral, blamed Reagan for AIDS, and keep trying to teach small schoolchildren about "fisting."

[Turbineguy]

1. If Ann Coulter likes you...

you might be a(n) ........

With apologies to Jeff Foxworthy

[genie_weenie]

2. Well, Ann is right. Falwell was a perfected Christian.

She's just saying this to keep in the spotlight and to keep pressure of the Terrorist Regime we have running this country.

[EstimatedProphet]

3. There are no words

Fortunately. Coulter's ranting has become so hate-filled and stupid that it can't be taken as anything but parody anymore. This is a person who defends Joe McCarthy, after all. I'm sure Hitler is likely rated pretty highly too. Sympathy for the Devil indeed.

[Vanje]

4. Ann Coulter has become a cartoon character

too silly to be real

[Eric J in MN]

6. I had to click the link to make sure this wasn't a parody. It's not. (NT)

NT

[underpants]

12. Like I said-I was sure it was some smartaleck blogger

or some Rude Pundit-esque wannabe type...nope it was Ann

[rodeodance]

10. even Republicans shy from her!!

[Beausoleil]

62. I have a theory that some public figures

eventually become caricatures of themselves. Kinda like a personal "shark-jumping". They can't do anything but exaggerate their own outrageous qualities. Michael Jackson comes to mind. Anna Nicole Smith was another. Paris/Brittney/Lindsey is on that road as well. Annthrax has reached self-caricature.

[Eric J in MN]

5. So Ann Coulter believes God hates America.

She's saying that God withdrew his protection from America as punishment for being too secular.

If God made a decision to let those thousands of people to die on 9/11, as Ann Coulter writes, then he must hate America.

[Richard Steele]

16. Coulter is just Fred Phelps in a little black dress.

Both are just crazed hatemongers mongering their crazed hate.
Sad, really.

[sheerjoy]

20. Naw

[BOSSHOG]

7. Yeah, I got a whiff of gin mixed with a hint of puke

Yeah the good ole 50's when god protected the ku klux klan and was incubating the likes of limbaugh and bush and abramoff. What a great time indeed. Gosh, I wish I were gay so I could have felt falwell's love. It must have been awesome. falwell and reagan can now chat about the good ole days when ronnie was ordering the deaths of non whites down in Central America. I bet the ole gipper will tear up at the thought. Maybe they'll share of packet of ketchup.

[underpants]

11. I added that link because, truth be told, I had to look it up

I would be willing to bet that Ann's assistant added it in too to spiffy up her random rants and scribbles on the back of bar napkins.

HERE! Pubilshth thsthis!

Funny thing-in the prelapsarian 50's Ann couldn't have done what she does now. I wonder if anyone ever pointed that out to her.

[Jamastiene]

39. I've been thinking the same thing for years.

If she thinks that time was so much better, then why doesn't she take her shoes off, wear a frock, get in the kitchen, start cooking dinner and shut the fuck up. She uses the opportunities that feminism affords her to bash feminism. What a dumbass.

[momster]

58. Just Like Phyllis Schafly

A lawyer, an activist, the mother of a gay child...try doing any of that in the world she'd condemn the rest of us to live in. If it's so bloody marvelous to be subservient, ignored and ridiculed, why isn't she living '50's style?

[Dulcinea]

61. If she had been around in the 1950s...

...she would have been called a "spinster," pitied & ignored by society. "What's wrong with her, she doesn't have a husband?" Wonder if she ever thought of that? Probably not.

[Beetwasher]

24. Yes, Good Ol' Ann Would LOVE The 50's

She would have such an easy time of it as a 40+ year old unwed, single woman trying to make it as a columnist (or anything for that matter). :eyes:

What an idiot.

[BOSSHOG]

28. She'd love that salary too

Maybe 40% of what the white christian coworker who works half as much women. Yeah, ann you'd love it. Actually you skanky bitch, you'd be ostracized from what was considered decent society back then, but you would look good in a klan sheet.

[Mad_Dem_X]

40. EXACTLY

The woman is loony tunes, that's all there is to it.

[AngryOldDem]

57. On the bright side, though....

She'd be stuck in a steno pool somewhere and would save the world from having to put up with her craziness.

[malta blue]

8. My Gawd how I despise that woman.....nt

[Hubert Flottz]

18. I like her!

She is always making the GOPers look like the assholes that they truly are! I know some very wealthy Reich wingers who think her word in the gospel. It proves to me beyond a shadow of a doubt how stupid these people really are. Something I've suspected all along, but when they quote Ann's swill, they might as wear a sign that says, "I'm a total freakin' mindless dumb ass!"

[malta blue]

53. LOL - now that is a great way to look at it...

I am just so disgusted by her venom.

[sheerjoy]

54. I am not rich...but....

I am a Christian and this woman is scum... even gags God!!!

[Hubert Flottz]

75. I've save a lot of money because of Ann...

Instead of spendin' a lot of cash taking my dogs to the vet I give them an Ann Coulter shock treatment. When the pets don't eat, I show them Annie Wrecksick on TV and tell them that is what they are going to look like, if they don't eat their Gravy Train and the dogs start eating like crazy. Problem solved!

[youthere]

9. Okay..who here is teaching schoolchildren "fisting"?

Raise your hands..*crickets* ...Anyone? Honestly..this woman needs to be on lithium..or whatever they prescribe to paranoid schizophrenics. And I'm not mocking anyone with PS. I honestly think she has it.

[underpants]

17. No one but Ann is completely consumed by it

1. On Page 175, Coulter attacked "liberals" who would "foist" sex education topics such as "nal sex, oral sex, fisting, dental dams, 'birthing games'" on kindergarteners. Citing a November 8, 1987, New York Times article, Coulter wrote:

But in contrast to liberal preachiness about IQ, there would be no moralizing when it came to sex. Anal sex, oral sex, fisting, dental dams, "birthing games" -- all that would be foisted on unsuspecting children in order to protect kindergarteners from the scourge of AIDS. As one heroine of the sex education movement told an approving New York Times reporter, "My job is not to teach one right value system. Parents and churches teach moral values. My job is to say, 'These are the facts,' and to help the students, as adults, decide what is right for them."9

To those who find it odd that Coulter would support her claim about "fisting" being taught to kindergarteners by quoting "one heroine of the sex education movement" and referring to students as "adults," there is a very good reason for that. The woman Coulter quoted was Dr. Beverlie Conant Sloane, then-director of health education at Dartmouth College. The Times article cited by Coulter, titled "At Dartmouth, A Helping Candor," (subscription required) was about the sex education programs available to adult students at Dartmouth -- not children in kindergarten. Not only is the article about adult students, but it is from November 1987, close to 20 years old -- hardly what would be considered to be relevant information on current sex education policies.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200608070002

COULTER: Absolutely. Absolutely. It's a great comparison. Because meanwhile, these health fanatics, when it comes to smoking, encourage every form of polymorphous perversity, which, by the way, does have public health consequences -- but no, no, no, no. That -- that -- you know, anal sex and fisting, that's part of our deepest privacy rights.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200607060007

[muriel_volestrangler]

21. Seriously, I learnt about fisting in my school magazine

But the context isn't what you'd expect. This was the mid 80s, when AIDS was a new phenomenon; and one of the parents happened to be a doctor doing research into it. The school, in an admirable fit of liberality and concern for education, asked him to write an article about what was known about AIDS. And he told us that fisting was a very high risk activity (and had to basically describe it, since most of us had never heard of it). The school was for 13-18 year olds, and the magazine was expected to be read by parents as well.

[MrSlayer]

23. It's part of the curriculum everywhere now.

8:00 am - Pledge of Allegiance
8:05 am - Reading
9:05 am - Recess
9:25 am - Fisting Demonstration
10:25 am - Practical Application of Fisting
11:45 am - Lunch
12:30 pm - Finger Painting
1:30 pm - Math
2:30 pm - dismissal

[underpants]

27. Thank GOD they get the pledge done first

:patriot:

[Phredicles]

42. *snerk*

:P:evilgrin::P

[formerrepuke]

33. Fisting BEFORE lunch period?... Now THAT'S really inappropriate....n/t

[Clark2008]

64. There's 10 minutes left over from the demonstration for clean up

I would hope!

:evilgrin:

[unpossibles]

50. we had finger painting right after fisting at my school

then lunch.

[underpants]

52. Eeeewwww

Nice image there :rofl:

[youthere]

67. When do they teach abortion?

What the hell am I paying taxes for if there's no abortion education in my public schools?! And "the gay"? Why aren't they teaching my kids "the gay"? The outrage!

[ProgressiveFool]

82. I hope they wash their hands before the finger painting... nt

[Dark]

41. It's right after Atheism 101 and before "Better sex with Birth Control" 315. nt

[alphafemale]

79. ummm...Ann Coulter?

And other sex-obsessed right-wingers?

[Atman]

13. Her hatred and ignorance makes Falwell sound like a piker.

Good god, that is one stupid, stupid woma...er, thing.

.

[Hawaii Hiker]

31. She's stupid, replusive &

downright ugly...The only thing worse than hearing her, is looking at her!...What an ugly bitch she is :puke:

[Atman]

34. Well, you took it a notch further than I would have

I don't think her perceived physical attractiveness (or lack of same) has anything to do with her obvious mental ugliness. Beauty is skin deep. Ugly is to the bone.

.

[Hawaii Hiker]

44. I get what your saying

"I don't think her perceived physical attractiveness (or lack of same) has anything to do with her obvious mental ugliness"...

I was just trying to say that she is an UGLY person mentally AND physically...Normally, I would not take shots on someone's looks, weight, etc., but civility goes out the window w/Ann since she is such a despicable person....

[philosophie_en_rose]

60. Her hate can make even a physically 'perfect' person look ugly.

I think her sneering body language and nasty message affect her physical appearance. It's all connected.

[mrcheerful]

14. Notice how Ann the man continues to speak in half truths?

No one blamed Reagan for AIDS, he was blamed for lack of action when AIDS came out then called it a gay disease hoping that it would be ignored, until it was found out that women could catch AIDS too and by then he had an epidemic on his hands. Again she lies about the 1950's, remember that was when god was used to protect america from those red commies? Also pregnant teens were hidden away until after they had their babies which were then taken away to be raised in government controlled institution's? Seems Ann the man is just a hypocrite that refuses to admit that the republican party has always been a party of control.

[DS1]

15. Do what now?

[underpants]

19. The Freepers themselves have a mixed take on this article

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1834819/posts

[shain from kane]

22. Oh, yes, The Fifties. At what specific point did God abandon us? And what

could we possibly do to gain His attention again? Does He periodically check in to see how we are doing, or has other cosmic duties prevented it? Has He lost interest? Does an all-knowing God have an attention span?


She should read ----
The Way We Never Were: American Families and the Nostalgia Trap
by Stephanie Coontz

[underpants]

25. Clearly our Godlessness lead to the "Republican Revolution"

ushering in the likes of Reagan...oh maybe THAT'S what she meant

[Dark]

43. Ah, the Fifties. When there was a car in every garage, no drugs or sex, and blacks knew their place.

nt

[va4wilderness]

26. Makes me wanna "MUST NOT" read

Just the thought of Ann Coulter going on and on and on and on and on and on about Jerry Falwell, as the "perfected Christian".... No thanks. I'm enjoying the day and want to enjoy the rest of it without a headache.

(Anyway) Good that you put this up just so we can see how absurd the RW can get ......

[bunkerbuster1]

29. "the prelapsarian '50s?"

What a loon.

[unpossibles]

68. oh - "prelapsarian"

I had read that as "prolapse" as in what I presume her colon does everytime she "writes" an article.

yuck.

Sorry.


yeah - the 50's were great so long as you were a white straight capitalist guy. No wonder the Righties can't seem to lead us into the future - not only are they looking backwards, but they can't even see the past accurately.

[BOSSHOG]

30. coulter ON falwell, you nasty underpants

You'll burn in hell for eternity and beyond for that evil blaspheme. You know evangelists never, ever touch anyone but their spouses, ever, ever. Never.

[underpants]

32. I... I am so sorry.

[sutz12]

74. And they most certainly wouldn't allow the woman on top....nt

:evilgrin:

[rurallib]

35. Almost looks like an ONION parody

I tried to keep from laughing. Really tried, but couldn't. Comparing CNN to the prostitutes almost made me spew my pop. "benighted" WTF is that?

[BurtWorm]

36. The same dipshits who moan about "them" hating "us" for our freedom

blame the 9/11 on people exercising their right to free speech.

[Jamastiene]

37. She says liberals hated him more than her.

Hmm... He's dead and can no longer blame me for everything from 911 to a hangnail. She is alive and seems unable to shut the fuck up with her god awful bullshit. She got that very wrong. I can't stand her. Falwell fell in the hateful bigot category. She falls in the fucking horrible and evil category.
Overall, my feeling reading that trash:
*shudder* :puke:

[Mad_Dem_X]

38. What. The. F*CK?

"keep trying to teach small children about fisting"???? :crazy:

What is WRONG with this woman? She is out of her frickin' mind!

And this: "the 50's...when God protected America from everything but ourselves." Excuse me...



:rofl:

[underpants]

49. See post #17

I can't find it now but when her latest "book" came out someone actually read it and she mentioned "fisting" two or threes times in it. She also brought it up on a TV show completely out of the blue as if it is something normally mentioned in conversation.

I hate to say this but this really sounds like what the poker players call a "Tell" ifyouknowwhatImeanandIthinkyoudo ;-)

[kimmylavin]

45. Religious Logic?

"Falwell later stressed that he blamed the terrorists most of all, but I think that clarification was unnecessary. The necessary clarification was to note that God was at least protecting America enough not to allow the terrorists to strike when a Democrat was in the White House."

Is she suggesting that God waited until we had some kind of "strong leader" (read: not a wimpy, liberal Democrat) in the White House to allow the terrorists to strike?

Seems to me her logic suggests that once Bush entered the White House, God pretty much gave up on us.

[Eric J in MN]

72. I think she's saying that she sincerely believes that God chose to let...

...the 9/11 attacks happen to punish us for being secular, and then she adds a joke that Democrats are so bad at national security that we must have had God's protection during Clinton to avoid a similar attack.

In other word, this sentence is an unfunny joke, "The necessary clarification was to note that God was at least protecting America enough not to allow the terrorists to strike when a Democrat was in the White House."

[Botany]

46. She is just a side show freak

[shenmue]

47. Oh my God she's disgusting

Why hasn't she gone to federal prison for vote fraud yet? Is anybody working on that?

--I forgot, this is the B*sh administration, we don't enforce the law.

[shain from kane]

48. Now she will have another hero's grave to visit. Picture for her next book.

[Phredicles]

51. She sure does like talking about fisting, doesn't she?

I mean, didn't she also accuse San Franciscans of fisting in the streets? So you can see what's on her mind; maybe the reason she's so twisted and horrible is frustration at not getting what she really wants in this life. I'd call for some brave soul to help her out with this, only who'd want to put their hand in that?:scared:

[derby378]

55. "If it ain't a fist, it isn't love..."

Pogues reference to all the fans of Irish drinking songs out there.

[AngryOldDem]

56. I made myself read it

...although it took all I had to get past her opening paragraph that compared Falwell to Christ.

Only Ann could work in references to Clinton, Barry Lynn, the ACLU, fisting, and The Teletubbies in her so-called paean to Falwell.

Damn...just how DO people get these lucrative gigs? I wrote better columns for my high school newspaper.

[Eric J in MN]

70. Yeah, Jesus Christ and Jerry Falwell are so similar,

...according to Ann Coulter, that liberals who hate Falwell must hate Jesus.

[northzax]

59. i love the fisting line

the prudes are great. Look, Ann, the only people who keep talking about fisting when children are around are your ilk. it's like when the whole Clinton/Monica mess was around, and conservatives kept saying "But Bill Clinton made up keep talking about blow jobs" Look, assholes. the only people who keep bringing up sex around children are you. you love to talk about how the evil liberals and (even worse) the evil liberal gays make you, just make you keep talking about dirty sex. Well let me tell you, I have never, in my life, heard a liberal, or even a homosexual, talk about fisting outside of an appropriate setting. the only people who talk about sex this much, this salaciously, are teenage boys and prudes. which are you?

[rasputin1952]

84. I'll be honest here, I'm well on my way to being a geezer, and

thought I had heard it all, but I had never heard of "fisting" until Coulter brought it up about 6 months ago, and then I thought is was masturbation...:shrug:

I finally got it when someone posted a link describing the process. I have no idea where she gets her jollies, but seems to me, the # of times she brings it up, she must really enjoy the situation...:D

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

63. Her schtick as "Defender of the Faith" is just as hollow as Falwell's.

But, like any other entertainer, she keeps trying to resurrect her glory days.

She's about as relevant or influential as Lawrence Welk.

[npincus]

65. vintage Coulter. Clnically insane.

[jeffrey_X]

66. "when God protected America from everything but ourselves."

Are you kidding?

Are you fucking kidding me???

[jollyreaper2112]

69. I have her pegged!

She's a man hack, baby!
\

[Oilwellian]

71. What a touching tribute to Falwell

And it was so touching to see "fisting" and "Tinky Winky" included. :rofl:

[Cheap_Trick]

73. mAnn, do me a favor please.....

DIE

[BuyingThyme]

76. Shouldn't she be in prison for obstruction and voter fraud?

[Raksha]

77. She's obviously too stupid to notice she just said a terrible thing

about Christianity, if Jerry Falwell is an example of a "perfected Christian"! All real Christians should be outraged, as I'm sure they will be!

[underpants]

78. Funny-short- story about that

I posted a long story on this a year ago but here goes.

We HAD to take our baby to Easter service at the grandparents church-my first trip, other than the wedding, to a church in I don't know how many years.

This is in Roanoke so they know Falwell-some even went to high school with him (yes only that many layers of seperation between me and IT)so when this slick preacher lead into a Falwell story everyone stirred and wiggled and got comfy for a good Jerry story. They aren't exactly fans.

So the guest speaker is talking about standing in line to meet some author (whom I googled and found nothing on-probably some inner circle guy) and the line keeps ebbing and flowing. Falwell shows up, puts his arm around our guest speaker, and takes him to the front of the line.

Just like Jesus would put his arm around you and take you into the pearly gates.

-stone cold stunned silence in the church-
I tried not to make any sudden movements but as soon as we walked out of the church my wife and I almost exploded with "DID HE SAY WHAT I THINK HE SAID!?!?" :rofl:

He compared Falwell to Christ. He hasn't been back since.

[yurbud]

80. she really turned me around on that teletubbies issue

they are as gay as a two dollar bill. yep.

:sarcasm:

[Sapere aude]

81. Well hers is going to be another grave that gets danced on for sure.

[rasputin1952]

83. WTF...if "prelapsarian' means before the collapse of...

Adam and Eve, how can the 50's be involved in that kind of scenario?

And just for Ann's information...the 50's sucked too, PTSD aff from WWII and Korea affected many people, and there was some serious abuse problems. Inflkation was climing ever higher, the Korean war left a lot of people dead, and millions more disillusioned.

Come to think of it, the 50's had a few glowing moments, desegregation of public schools, the Interstate...OK.

I don't think Coulter is old enough to remeber the 50's. Her view of the 50's was molded on Leave it to Beaver and Andy Griffith reruns.

And if Falwell was the epitome of a Christian...she has some serious issues...:grr:

[Phredicles]

85. Yeah, Coultergeist is, what, in her 40s? Too young to have seen the '50s;

it's another example of what Jon Stewart said the other night, that the country the Publicans want to run is fictional.

[rasputin1952]

87. A lot of our history is fictionalized...most people don't know that

the largest bill the Constitutional Congress had, was it's bill for alcohol, the amount consumed is staggering when you think about it. It was not as seen in the paintings of the era either, there was a lot of contention and fights, verbal and physical often broke out.

The US, in it's beginings was a place of unbridled brawling and some serious adventure...we still have a lot of that today...:D

[Cults4Bush]

86. Falwell used to fist her is what Im getting from this.

thats Anns main problem with us, you shouldnt teach youngins fisting because it is clearly something only for adults.. like wars and alcohol.

Falwell the fister, I am sure also liked to recieve the same treatment in kind.... and honest Annie there knows how to massage a prostate with the best of 'em. I guess some assholes are just too big to squeeze the hand the feeds though... pitty really :)