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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 06:15 PM
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FAIR TRADERS: Kucinich, Edwards, Obama. "FREE" TRADERS: Richardson, Hillary. See AFL/CIO Source:
http://www.aflcio.org/issues/politics/issues_trade.cfm.

But bear in mind, even the "free"-trade Democrats aren't too terrible on the issue (as you'll see from the balanced reviews by the AFL/CIO source) and are much better than any Repub likely to get elected:

Summaries:

KUCINICH
Kucinich is a vocal opponent of unfair trade policies and job exporting.

"I have traveled across America. And I have seen the effects of agreements like NAFTA and CAFTA: padlocked gates of abandoned factories, grass growing in parking lots of places where workers used to make steel, used to make washing machines, used to make textiles, used to make machine parts.

"Free trade has meant freedom for the American worker to stand in the unemployment line while their jobs were traded away. So-called free trade has brought broken dreams, broken homes, broken hearts to the American manufacturing worker. Trade without equity is tyranny. Trade without economic justice is theft. Trade without integrity, without workers' rights, without human rights, without environmental principles is not worthy of a free people." (Kucinich in the final House CAFTA debate, 7/27/05)

Kucinich advocates the end of NAFTA and the World Trade Organization to protect workers and the environment.

"The exodus of jobs from our shores and the "race to the bottom" for workers around the world is an obvious result of NAFTA and the WTO, both of which make it impossible to place taxes or tariffs on outsourced work. The search for countries where workers are unrepresented and environmental rules are lax must end. NAFTA, WTO, 'Fast Track' legislation, and the Free Trade Area of the Americas must be rejected and replaced with Fair Trade policies in which bilateral trade agreements are negotiated to provide for living wages for workers and environmental safeguards." (Campaign website)


EDWARDS
Edwards opposes a proposed trade deal with South Korea, which he says would be bad for the U.S. auto industry, and wants to see real labor standards in future trade agreements.

"We need trade that works for American workers, which means there need to be real labor standards, real environmental standards…."(Associated Press, 4/22/07)

As a U.S. senator, Edwards voted against bad trade agreements with Singapore and Chile.He also supported an amendment to Fast Track trade authority legislation to require U.S. trade negotiators to seek workers’ rights standards and enforcement provisions in future trade agreements, equal to those negotiated in the U.S.-Jordan agreement. (H.R. 2739, 7/31/03; H.R. 2738, 7/31/03; H.R. 3009, 5/16/02)

Unions, Edwards says, made manufacturing jobs good jobs and calls "organized labor the nation's ‘greatest anti-poverty movement.’" (AP, 9/4/06)


OBAMA
Obama voted against CAFTA but for the Oman Free Trade Agreement. (H.R. 3045, 7/28/05; S. 3569, 6/29/06)

He said he opposed CAFTA because workers are not getting help dealing with the negative effects of the corporate-driven global economy.

"I wish I could vote in favor of CAFTA. In the end, I believe that expanding trade and breaking down barriers between countries is good for our economy and for our security, for American consumers and American workers.…I meet these workers all across Illinois, workers whose jobs moved to Mexico or China and are now competing with their own children for jobs that pay 7 bucks an hour. In town meetings and union halls, I've tried to tell these workers the truth—that these jobs aren't coming back, that globalization is here to stay and that they will have to train more and learn more to get the new jobs of tomorrow. But when they wonder how they will get this training and this education, when they ask what they will do about their health-care bills and their lower wages and the general sense of financial insecurity that seems to grow with each passing day, I cannot look them in the eyes and tell them that their government is doing a single thing about these problems. That is why I won't vote for CAFTA." (Press release, 6/30/05)


RICHARDSON
As U.N. ambassador under Pres. Bill Clinton, Richardson represented the administration’s view that free trade could ultimately be a positive thing for the country. In a speech at the City of Denver’s Annual Free Trade Dinner,

“Richardson warned …against the threat of passivism in the face of global opportunities and challenges, and emphasized the growing importance of free trade, both to Americans and the world at large….'We must be willing to embrace, not selfishly evade, the responsibilities and obligations that the imperative of American leadership entails,' Ambassador Richardson told the several hundred guests. To do so, 'we must do more to seize the opportunity and the limitless possibilities that free trade and global engagement represents for the American people.' ” (Richardson’s remarks, 5/19/98)

But Richardson supports stronger enforcements for wage disparity and worker and environmental protection.

"On the pending free trade agreements with Peru and Colombia, Richardson said, 'I'm a free trader. But I think free trade agreements have to have stronger enforcements in three areas: wage disparity, worker protection and environmental protection.' He said he would only support the pending trade deals if they contain stronger enforcement provisions in those areas." (Miami Herald, 2/26/07)


HILLARY
Clinton voted against CAFTA and an unfair trade agreement with the Dominican Republic, but she voted for bad trade agreements with Oman, Singapore and Chile. (S. 3569, 6/29/06; S. 1307, 6/30/05; H.R. 2739, 7/31/03; H.R. 2738, 7/31/03)

At the 2006 UAW legislative conference, Clinton discussed the importance of labor standards in trade agreements and why she voted against CAFTA:

"…ne of the reasons I voted against CAFTA is that it retreated from advances we were beginning to make at the end of the 1990s. We should never ever enter into a labor agreement in the 21st century that does not have labor and environmental standards in trade. Because if we don’t have trade agreements that lift the bottom up, we will see a race to the bottom.

"And that means we’ve got to enforce the trade agreements that are already on the books, something that this administration refuses to do. That is why we cannot grant Thailand access to the U.S. auto market. That would be just like admitting that we’re dying and would just speed the suicide.

"This makes no sense at all. I believe in trade. But I believe in trade where it’s not only on a level playing field but where we are lifting up the world not driving the American worker and the American standard of living down." (UAW Legislative Policy Conference, 2/8/06)

At the same conference, she talked about the importance of retaining manufacturing jobs in the United States:

“You know, we are in the position we find ourselves today: where we are losing good paying jobs, where wages are stagnant, where people are losing health care and pension security, and where we have a government that wants to undo the work of the 20th century…And it just reinforced, for me, that whatever is wrong with American manufacturing can be fixed by doing what is right with American manufacturing and putting people in charge who know how to do that.

"We have competitive advantages that nobody in the world has. We have a strong, flexible, hard-working, experienced workforce. We just have to unleash you to be able to be competitive. We have a real commitment to innovation, but we don’t get any support from our government on that front. We have elected officials who are willing to stand up and form a consensus about how to enhance manufacturing." (UAW Legislative Policy Conference, 2/8/06)

Because of the damage to our manufacturing sector, she said in New Hampshire:

"…here is a sense among many that, after years of forward momentum, the country's progress has begun reversing. This is especially true for middle-class workers and people once employed in the manufacturing industry. 'They are running in place, but they feel like they are falling behind,' she said." (Rutland Herald, 2/12/07; Video: Keene, N.H., town hall, 2/11/07)
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 06:38 PM
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1. Kucinich is the MAN. You can add this link to Hillary's two-facedness:
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 07:54 PM
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2. Tata Consultancy Services (TCS) opens a center in Buffalo, New York - and this is bad?
Tata is doing bad things (running Indians through US jobs on H1's so as to return them to India and then bid from India for US outsourcing), but opening an office in New York means jobs in New York - and getting such jobs is what a Senator is supposed to do.
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 08:48 PM
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8. If those jobs are filled by H-1b's then those jobs won't be going to American workers n/t
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 08:52 PM
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9. true - and there were some H1's but most were US citizens n/t
n/t
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 09:14 AM
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13. Then how long before the US citizens are replaced by H-1b's? n/t
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 11:27 PM
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12. 80% of Tata's US hires are Indian workers.
http://www.bufflink.org/NewsText/381887604282407.html

Embroiled in a controversy over "off-shoring" of white collar jobs, TCS is pointing to its positive contributions to the U.S. economy. Nationwide, TCS America provides about 8,000 jobs in more than 50 offices. About 80 percent are filled by workers from India, Gupta said, but local hiring is growing.

I noticed how they interviewed two Americans, as if that excuses the bleeding or trumpets offshoring's "positive contribution" to the economy. Um, guy? The worker rarely, if at all, sees any benefit from this practice. Often times, he/she gets the shaftola in the form of layoffs and training their replacement, hardly a myth and getting more commonplace in chainsaw corporate America.

The point is, Hillary tends to talk out of both sides of her mouth on this issue, depending on the crowd. She wants to impress me, then take a firm stand and CALL for worker protection in these trade agreements you sign. Kucinich is the only one who REALLY thinks of the worker. There needs to be assurance that workers here will not lose their jobs or be forced to train their shipped over/overseas replacements.

Of course, such a proviso would kind of defeat the whole purpose, wouldn't it?
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Rydz777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 07:58 PM
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3. Kucinich has the right position on so-called "free trade" - which
is basically just a bunch of phoney slogans. I don't think he has a chance of getting the nomination. But he can - and I hope he will - lead a growing movement in the Democratic Party to save American industry and American jobs.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 08:00 PM
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4. That's an important distinction. I hope people notice. - n/t
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 08:04 PM
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5. AFof L/CIO list is Alpha order - your grouping is not what the unions are saying -
Obama and Hillary are peas in a pod on this issue post Obama's election to the Senate.

Indeed none of the folks are "fair trade" except DK, and possibly Edwards.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 09:01 PM
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10. I'm quoting word-for-word exactly what the unions are saying with a link to the source.
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 08:17 PM
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6. I'm trying to figure out how you conclude that Obama and Clinton are different on this issue.
Based on the information you have provided here, their records seem to be roughly the same.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 09:09 PM
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11. The difference is Hillary voted for "bad trade agreements" with Singapore and Chile (the phrase "bad
Edited on Thu May-17-07 09:24 PM by Czolgosz
trade agreements" is the AFL/CIO's not mine). It seemed to me that in the language I quoted from the AFL/CIO source that the unions saw more of a trend in Hillary's votes than in Obama's single vote on the Oman trade agreement which Hillary also voted for. I quoted the whole excerpts so other people could reach their own conclusions.
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5X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 08:18 PM
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7. K and R for the Kooch. n/t
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