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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 04:41 PM
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"Snopes are a couple of guys in a trailer park" is one of
Edited on Mon Sep-13-10 04:42 PM by Cleita
the many enlightening things I learned today on talk radio. :sarcasm: Thom Hartmann had one weirdo after the other and this crazy woman called Cathy said that and she also said Fact check wasn't factual or words to that effect. I guess they are three guys in a trailer park to them. :eyes: Then Randi Rhodes later got a board full of the same types, tea baggers, birthers, each one not knowing what the fuck they were talking about. So I think Beck, Limbaugh, O'Reilly and Hannity must have been calling on the troops to call up left wing radio shows with stupid talking points and no ability to make an argument when the error of their ways were pointed out to them. All they can do is shout over the radio host because THEY HAVE NO FACTS and have to stoop to accusing the sources of living in trailer parks. Thom called a birther caller anti-American and Rhandi just told another nutjob that he wasn't an American patriot because he obviously didn't know what was in the Constitution and was against it.

Man I hope our lefties start calling them out for what they are. Go Thom and go Rhandi.

:patriot:
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 04:44 PM
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1. Um, it is a married couple in California.
Barbara signs off on most of their pieces.

How can people be so ignorant?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 04:45 PM
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2. Thom said they are connected to a university or
came out of one. It's not like they aren't professionals.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 05:12 PM
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13. Educated, professional, connected to a university? No wonder the right wing morans
hate them.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 05:57 PM
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22. they must obviously have a left wing bias then!
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LastLiberal in PalmSprings Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 12:37 PM
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37. Stephen Colbert:; "Facts are a liberal conspiracy." n/t
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 05:24 PM
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15. It ain't easy to be so ignorant. Those folks work VERY hard at it..
If you ever try to show them facts, they stick their fingers in their ears and start singing "lalalalalalalalala"
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 04:47 PM
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3. I'm thinking Barbara Mikkelson would LOL at that comment
:)
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nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 04:49 PM
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4. if some bint posting from his mom's basement in his pyjamas can *prove* dimson
Edited on Mon Sep-13-10 04:50 PM by nosmokes
didn't go AWOL from TANG then why should they care if snopes is a couple in a trailer park?

edit because I can't type or proofread.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 04:50 PM
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5. They need call screeners
I know they think that they are being "fair" and helping to "educate" people by debating the crazy stoopids, but that is simply not the case.

Anytime crazy and stoopid is given any chance whatsoever to trumpet their idiocy over the airwaves, it dilutes, obscures, and ultimately destroys the facts and eventually destroys the ability to perceive the truth.

I can't even stand to listen to these liberal shows when the crazy stoopids start calling in. Why? What is the point? You can't debate a crazy person. Neither can you debate a stoopid, because in order to debate someone you presume they have a basic grasp on logic, deductive reasoning, and don't have religous devotion to erroneous assumptions such as "the earth is flat".

It would be far better if these liberal shows screened their calls and only had on intelligent, well reasoned, politically left callers and experts. Call it message purity or just plain marketing. I think it is another one of the myriad of reasons the left has a difficult time getting their message out. The stoopids and crazies don't want shades of gray, just one constant barrage of being told what to think, what to say and what to do.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 04:53 PM
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6. I sort of agree with you on that and
I have even emailed Thom and told him that I prefer to listen to informed guests I can learn from like Bernie Sanders and that the RW crazies he tries to debate don't do that for me.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 04:53 PM
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7. Nothing on Snopes about that one.
I just checked.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 05:00 PM
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11. LOL!
I do hope they address it though, if they know this rumor is being spread about them in an attempt to discredit their work.
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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 06:22 PM
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23. How bout this:

http://www.snopes.com/info/articles.asp

Looked it over the other day. I'm surprised I didn't forget.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 04:57 PM
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8. People can get very attached to their lies.
:shrug:
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 04:58 PM
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9. who cares if they do live in a trailer park.
Snopes is always right. That's all that should count.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 04:58 PM
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10. Well, I don't but apparently it was important to the
caller in a derisive way.
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 05:27 PM
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17. I agree.
It's not as if information is automatically reliable if it comes from an office building.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 05:09 PM
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12. I lived in a trailer park for a year when I was a grad student at Penn State.
It was a normal mix of people with the exception that there were a lot of college students. Almost none fit the trailer park red neck stereotype.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 05:49 PM
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21. I lived in trailer parks throughout the West for ten
years when my husband and I traveled around with a, guess what, trailer. It's not me that is using this to discredit the professionalism of the Snopes website but the caller into the show who obviously thought Snopes couldn't be a credible source because they lived in a trailer park.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 05:19 PM
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14. I checked this out on Snopes, and it's true
That's what all the reich-wing lies that I've been spammed with say these days.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 05:27 PM
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16. They debunk the validity of Snopes but use it to convince people of the truth of their spam shit
:crazy: :silly: :wtf:
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 05:35 PM
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19. Yep, the knuckle draggers try to have it both ways! n/t
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 05:34 PM
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18. They're driven by desperation.



And I'm really pleased to hear this.

The RW Media Hatemongers seem to be backed up into a corner. :rofl:


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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 05:40 PM
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20. They should just respond, "Snopes is a DJ and rapper whose real name is Alex Jones."
That'll confuse 'em, and hopefully cause Alex Jones a little hassle, keeping him busy with another conspiracy theory. :D

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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 09:31 PM
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24. In Malibu there is a trailer park that overlooks the ocean...
"Trailers" were going for 600K.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 09:42 PM
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25. Yeah, I heard both of them
Both FULL of bluster, absolutely DEVOID of facts.
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Recovered Repug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 10:30 PM
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26. How stupid some people are.
Everyone knows that they live in their parent's basement.
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 07:12 AM
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27. I think Randi's been doing a good job talking to them,
and getting some of them to pause and think.

I love it when they say, "I thought you'd cut me off - I didn't think you'd let me talk." And they're absolutely shocked... cuz that's SOP for RW radio.

Patient as she is, sometimes even she has to give up.
There was one guy on Monday that was rather entertaining to listen to. Totally whack.

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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 11:04 AM
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30. The queen of talking over people?
:rofl: that's a good one! I have to turn off the radio when she comes on because it's painful the way she talks over people. "time to pause and think indeed". It's funny when it's kooks, but she does it to pretty much everyone.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 11:44 AM
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34. You should turn her back on, she's
changing her tactics and letting these wackos talk. Now I see why she used to yell at them and talk over them.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 10:19 PM
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38. I don't know - listening to the wackos sounds more painful to me.
I guess I don't have much patience for most talk radio. I like Thom Hartmann and a handful of other talk radio hosts probably because the level of hysteria is kept to a minimum.
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 01:32 AM
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39. She's not as bad as she used to be. She's different now and
I like her better. Her audience has changed somewhat. Her show is carried on stations that also have RW talkers. Listeners discover her by accident and hear something they've never heard before. IMO, she's making an effort to interact with them. As long as they don't yell or insult her personally she will talk to them... and set them straight with facts.
Sometimes I can almost hear the lightbulb go on over their head. :think:

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4_TN_TITANS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 10:11 AM
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28. I heard that show to, Thom sure had some winners call in....
I could tell the stupid was becoming very painful for him.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 11:45 AM
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35. It was like a wave. It makes me think that
there was a mobilization of kooks and paid operatives to call in that day.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 10:36 AM
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29. And Wikipedia is staffed by Cheetos-eating, D&D playing slackers...
It was as recently as this past July, 4 that I heard from old friends-turned-freepers that Snopes is "highly fallable". When further questioned as to why, the hemming and hawing soon began.

I've also notiuced that as per many freepers, Wikipedia is staffed by Cheetos-eating, D&D playing slackers, and is wholly without merit. (Hence, Conservepedia blossomed to meet the need of faith-based facts and review...)

It is indeed odd to see such respected academics such as Gayatri Spivak, Henry Jenkins and Donna Haraway cite Wikiepdia in their works, while the Smartest College Student in the World (as they each tell me they are) dismisses it out of hand.

And though the burden of proof then moves from the thesis author to the critic, the sound of silence becomes more than a good song.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 11:38 AM
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31. I stopped reading after "Snopes are...".
That tells you all you need to know about the assertion that follows.

These clowns have the intellectual agility of a soap dish.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 11:39 AM
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32. I remember that caller. She was in orbit.
She tried to make "natural born citizen" dependent on where your FATHER was born.

LOL
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 11:42 AM
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33. She was a piece of work, wasn't she?
All that she said was propaganda she got somewhere else. I wonder where! Enquiring minds want to know.
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cemaphonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 12:24 PM
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36. perhaps they are thinking of *Flem* Snopes.
Who also didn't live in a trailer park, but still..
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