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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 11:45 AM
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Philly Cops Rob Undercover Cop Posing As Marijuana Dealer
Only in Philly...

Two Philadelphia police officers were arrested Monday evening and charged with robbing an undercover investigator posing as a pot dealer, authorities admitted Tuesday.

Officers Sean Alivera, 31, and Christopher Luciano, 23, allegedly stole 20 pounds of marijuana and $3,000 in cash, reports Troy Graham at The Philadelphia Inquirer.

Both officers, who were partners in the 25th District, were arrested at the district headquarters in what must have been a priceless scene. They were still in custody Tuesday morning, after being charged with robbery, kidnapping, conspiracy, and other distinctly cop-like crimes.

Rumors had been going around about Alivera and Luciano were shaking down drug dealers. The story made its way from the Pennsylvania Bureau of Narcotics Investigations to the Philadelphia Police Department about two weeks ago.




Criminal Master Minds

the rest-
http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2010/10/philly_cops_rob_undercover_cop_posing_as_marijuana.php

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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 11:56 AM
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1. The police academies do try to screen out the
covetous antisocials and the enforcing sadists. But, they make mistakes.

Enjoying life on the rough side takes 2 different sort of personality; call one the good guys and the other the bad guys. There is some room for victims and very little room for others.
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Riktor Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 02:03 PM
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20. Nonsense.
Locking people in uniforms and granting them inordinate power over others will tempt even the best of us towards acts of sadism and depravity.

The Stanford Prison Experiment

This experiment was conducted over 30 years ago, and the general public is still ignoring Dr. Zimbardo's findings. It's a shame, really.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 02:10 PM
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21. It's not nonsense, police academies REALLY DO psychological assessments
of cadets. I didn't say it works, but the tests are given.


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Riktor Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:11 PM
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31. You're looking at it from the wrong angle
I'm not saying the academies don't try to screen out antisocials. I'm sure they do, despite the fact personality tests are widely criticized as unreliable determinants of behavior.

I'm calling nonsense on your assertion that there are "good guys" and "bad guys", who exist irrespective of social context.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 07:11 PM
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34. Well, I've done a poor job of stating my position then
because good and bad are entirely contextual.

My point was that people attracted to the rough side of society generally tend to be quite black and white thinkers who tend to divide the world into good or bad.
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drmeow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 12:19 PM
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26. The research design
of the Stanford Prison Experiment was so seriously flawed that it calls into question all the findings from the study. There is research data which suggests that:

"... the subjects responded to a number of demand characteristics in the experimental situation, acting out their stereotypic images of a prison guard and, to a lesser extent, of a prisoner. To the extent that such confounding variables were operative, the subjects' behavior cannot be explained as strategic, coping responses to an asymmetrical power situation analogous to that of a real prison."

http://psychoanalystsopposewar.org/resources_files/Zimbardos_%20study_%20February_19751.pdf

" ... during Zimbardo’s (1989) “guard orientation” on August 14, 1971, he instructed
his guards:

You can create in the prisoners feelings of boredom, a sense of fear to some degree, you can create a notion of
arbitrariness that their life is totally controlled by us, by the system, you, me—that they’ll have no privacy at all. . . . There’ll be constant surveillance. Nothing they do will go unobserved. They’ll have no freedom of action, they can do nothing, or say nothing that we don’t permit. We’re going to take away their individuality in various ways. In general what all this leads to is a sense of powerlessness.

The significance of this passage does not just lie in the details of how to oppress the prisoners. It also lies in the fact that Zimbardo speaks of himself and his audience as “we.” By positioning himself among the guards rather than as a neutral experimenter, Zimbardo acts as an “entrepreneur of identity” who exerts leadership
over the guards through his invocation and management of a shared social identity (Reicher, Haslam, & Hopkins, 2005; Turner, 1987)."

http://www.pineforge.com/isw6/articles/ch3haslam.pdf
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Riktor Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:03 PM
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30. And this just reinforces the findings of the Milgram Experiment
In positioning himself amongst the guards, Zimbardo (the warden) relieved them of any feelings of personal responsibility for their actions. They were doing a job, as they were instructed to do. Any fallout or repercussions which would or could have arose from their actions would fall solely on the shoulders of the man in charge.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 10:13 AM
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24. The mininal age for a cop should be 40...
...so that would-be cops with criminal tendencies commit crimes before they can get a badge.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 01:46 PM
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29. But Riktor thinks it's a matter of the uniform...regardless of age
who the fuck in this thread has a sane thought?
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Riktor Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:15 PM
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33. It isn't simply the uniform...
... it is a combination of social factors which reduce feelings of personal responsibility. I'd say the fact police officers are granted inordinate power over a public with increasingly little recourse is a far greater factor than the uniform itself.
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yella_dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 12:32 PM
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27. Maybe.
But they do a piss poor job. Lots of power trips in uniform.


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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 11:59 AM
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2. You wish.. This shit goes on all over the damn country every day..
It's just that the cops are seldom caught red handed like this.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:01 PM
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3. Remember the Keystone Kops?


Well, Phiily is the largest city in PA -- the Keystone State. Think about it.
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bigmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:02 PM
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4. Any party shooting the other in this tale would clearly be justified.
Cops need to protect themselves first, as we all know. :sarcasm:
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catbyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:04 PM
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5. Oops, lol
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:07 PM
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6. Oops
:rofl:
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:15 PM
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7. There was an identical case a few months ago.
A couple of months ago, three other Philly cops got busted robbing drug dealers.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:27 PM
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8. After the cops serve their time, maybe they can get jobs
writing episodes of Reno 911.

:rofl:
rocktivity
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:30 PM
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9. Oh, not just in Philly, but across the country
This sort of shit has been happening for a long while, and has only increased with time.

That's part of what burns so much about forfeiture laws, it is another way cops steal from people, criminals and innocents alike, and do so under the cover of the law.
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era veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:32 PM
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10. Anybody that wants to be a cop probably shouldn't
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:34 PM
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11. Only in Philly?
I wouldn't surprised if this happened elsewhere. I also wonder if we would of ever heard about these cops if they didn't rob an undercover posing as a dealer.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 01:50 PM
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18. I just like the phrase only in Philly.
I do know that it happens everywhere. Hell, I've been pulled over as a kid, had my pot taken away, and nothing was said about it. I knew later on that cop was toking on my stash.
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Mike Marble Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:36 PM
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12. One day's worth of crooked and abusive cop stories:
http://www.injusticeeverywhere.com/

National Police Misconduct NewsFeed Daily Recap 10-05-10
October 6th, 2010
Here are the 19 reports of police misconduct tracked in the National Police Misconduct News Feed for Tuesday, October 5, 2010:



A Marco Florida police officer is the subject of a lawsuit accusing him of using excessive force when he stopped his police cruiser, beat 3 handcuffed men in the back of that cruiser, then sealed the cruiser up after releasing pepperspray in the vehicle, all of which was captured on video and all because they kept taunting the officer on the way to jail. The officer initially received 2 weeks suspension and was charged with battery but was allowed to enter a pre-trial diversion program that cleared his record and his suspension was overturned by a state panel, ultimately leaving him with a clean record and free pass. <3>
Watertown New York has settled a lawsuit for $600,000 to a man who was shot 3 times by a police officer who broke into his apartment through a 2nd floor window hunting for his ex-girlfriend who he then kidnapped. That officer was sentenced to 15 years in prison for attempted murder, kidnapping, burglary, and grand larceny. <0>

An Owensboro Kentucky police officer has been fired for violating policies including use unnecessary force after jail video showed him repeatedly challenging a detainee to stand up and when he finally did the officer and others jumped on him and began beating him. Investigators also found that a report over the incident filed by another officer had discrepancies when compared to the video. <0>

Flagler County Florida and the sheriff of Flagler County have both settled a lawsuit for unspecified sums to the daughter of a former state attorney who claims deputies used excessive force when they forced her into a restraint chair for refusing to strip and shower in front of male deputies after being arrested on a disorderly intoxication charge that was dismissed later. <1>

Seaside Heights New Jersey has settled a lawsuit for $75,000 to a man claiming police officers there injured his shoulder after they cuffed his arms behind his back despite being told by him and his fiancee that he had an injured shoulder and then choked him into unconsciousness without cause. They also arrested his fiancee for asking why he was being arrested. The incident apparently escalated through a series of misunderstandings after the man had responded to an obscenity yelled at him. <4>

A Vernal Utah police sergeant was allowed to enter into a diversion agreement that will dismiss a felony assault charge he faced for pistol-whipping a suspect arrested after he allegedly shot another officer in the leg. The charge will be dismissed in a year in exchange for a $1,000 fine and his decertification as a police <0>

New York NY has settled a lawsuit for $300,000 to two brothers who were falsely arrested by narcotics cops on drug charges but freed once surveillance video of the arrest came out showing the charges were trumped up. One of the officers already pled guilty to a felony charge after resigning while the other is awaiting trial after becoming a cop in Nassau County NY. <3>

Three Basalt Colorado police officers are the subject of a lawsuit filed by a man claiming officers injured him when they beat him while arresting him for yelling “don’t let the door hit you in the ass” while they were leaving after conducting a bar “walkthrough”. Those charges were eventually dismissed. <1>

The New Mexico Region III Narcotics Task Force was accused of using excessive tactics when they raided a Montessory school with students aged 11-14 in search of marijuana in that school’s greenhouse. While teachers say the kids thought the armed military helicopter the task force used was neat, they didn’t think the armored officers armed with assault weapons were necessary. While officers didn’t find any pot, they did find plenty of tomatoes. <3>

A Garden Grove California police officer has been arrested on two counts of felony forcible sodomy over allegations that he sexually assaulted two women that he dated. <1>

Two Philadelphia Pennsylvania police officers have been arrested arrested after they detained then robbed an undercover agent posing as a drug dealer as part of a sting operation targeting corrupt officers. <0>

Four Anchorage Alaska police officers will go through “retraining” after an investigation found they violated departmental policy in a recorded incident where they threatened to taser and arrest a man for refusing to let them enter his apartment without a warrant over an animal complaint. <1>

A Milford Connecticut police officer has been suspended for 5 days and prohibited from driving any departmental vehicles for 9 months after the release of dahscam videos involving offices using excessive speed through an FOIA request prompted an investigation into that officer’s consistent use of excessive speed while responding to calls. <3>

A Newark New Jersey police officer has been granted a pretrial diversion deal involving counseling and community service that will ultimately clear his record of a domestic abuse charge involving a female teenage relative. <1>
An Ishpeming Michigan police officer has resigned and has been sentenced to pay a $600 fine after pleading guilty to a domestic violence charge. <0>

The police chief of Helotes Texas has been suspended after Texas Rangers searched his home as part of an unspecified investigation. <3>

A Macomb County Michigan deputy is under investigation after accused of sending text messages when he rear-ended another vehicle while transporting prisoners from court to jail. <0>

The police chief of Ashley Pennsylvania has been suspended while he’s the subject of an investigation by state police into an unspecified complaint about threats he allegedly made. <3>

Finally, a part-time sworn police officer in Pinetops North Carolina is a suspect in the shooting death of a college student who’s body was found in the officer’s dorm room after he died from a bullet wound to the head. Police aren’t releasing any more details except that the officer was also discovered nearby holding an emptied gun. <1>

That’s it for today, stay safe out there.
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 01:21 PM
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14. Zoiks. What's with the pot raid on the Montessory school?
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nyc 4 Biden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 10:11 AM
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23. I saw that story. Thats crazy. n/t
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 01:53 PM
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19. Thanks for the link and welcome to DU Mike!
It's always been clear to me that 99% of cops give the rest a bad name.
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 01:09 PM
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13. I wanna see the video of this, I hope they release it
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 01:24 PM
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15. The Bad Lieutenants: Port of Call - Philadelphia
Coming in 2010 to a theater near you!
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 01:25 PM
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16. corruption of law enforcement is part of the legacy of prohibition
no different this time around, either.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 01:41 PM
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17. Philly's finest! nt
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 02:41 PM
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22. wow! Glad they were caught.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 10:15 AM
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25. How many cops were arrested yesterday by the FBI in Puerto Rico?
they were ALLEDGEDLY running drugs opps..
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 12:35 PM
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28. It's turning out to be a bad week to be a corrupt cop
:rofl:
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:12 PM
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32. LOL
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36. LOL. . .
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