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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 10:42 AM Original message |
IMPEACH: Scalia and Thomas attended Koch Bros' secret strategy meetings. Call Senate and House!!!! |
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brendan120678 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
1. The Senate doesn't impeach, the House does. (nt) |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 10:55 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Then let the House impeach and if the Senate finds them guilty in its trial... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 11:03 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Find them guilty of ____? |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 11:22 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. The Code... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 11:26 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Where do you see anything about them doing fundraising? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 11:39 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Coordinating direction of funds to political groups is part of Koch's political strategy meetings |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 11:44 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Whatever |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 11:47 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. What about their secret participation in these meetings DOESN'T alarm you as a citizen? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 12:17 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. I have absolutely no doubt how they will vote on important cases. Never have. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 12:25 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. that's not the charge...they are actively COLLUDING on political strategy...a strategy that Citizens |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 12:30 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. I'm not even sure what you mean by "secret", let alone "COLLUDING" |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 12:35 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Funny how you REACH to make what they did sound excusable. And you need to pretend the word secret |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 01:46 PM Response to Reply #35 |
52. oh, boy. that explains a lot. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 02:03 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. In this thread I call Thomas and Scalia "scum", "douchebags", "jackasses"... |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 02:10 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. YOU claim they broke no ethical code - we are saying they did. YOU discourage calls for scrutiny |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 02:14 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. If you honestly think they raised money or endorsed a candidate at that meeting... |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 03:06 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. attendance where the objective of the meetings is to coordinate a plan for elections...and the |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 04:21 PM Response to Reply #69 |
85. Actually the objective of the meetings is to "coordinate a strategy to defend the free market" |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 05:22 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. hahah....like there's a difference between what the BushRNC wants and the fascist agenda. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 10:54 AM Response to Reply #85 |
119. Oh, like you have the inside skinny. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 10:53 AM Response to Reply #64 |
118. Are you THAT naive? No, seriously? |
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Deadgnome (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 09:58 AM Response to Reply #14 |
110. Cool |
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blackbart99 (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 07:29 AM Response to Reply #8 |
94. These guys are supposed to be impartial.... |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 08:33 AM Response to Reply #94 |
102. exactly...and acting blatantly partial is bad behavior for a judge, esp. a Supreme Court Justice |
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Bitwit1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 08:53 AM Response to Reply #8 |
103. Directly from the Constitution-- |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 09:03 AM Response to Reply #8 |
104. The house can convict a ham sandwich |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 10:59 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Both need to be contacted. IMO, Senate Judiciary members more likely to get media attention. |
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SugarShack (979 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 12:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
120. where is the source for this? |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
2. I think therefore I rec... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 10:59 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. On the take? |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 11:19 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Why meet secretly with the Koch brothers? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 11:26 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Because they're all vaguely-human-shaped piles of slime |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 11:24 AM Response to Reply #7 |
15. On the take for their fascist ideology. Citizens United proved they'll hand over this nation's |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 11:27 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. We already knew that about them |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 11:33 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Sez you. They can serve 'during good behavior' and you think their blatantly bad behavior shouldn't |
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The Blue Flower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 11:48 AM Response to Reply #7 |
25. Thomas' wife's salary |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 11:59 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Citizens United ruling allows limitless corporate cash that can go undisclosed - blatant FASCISM! |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 12:27 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. Which ruling? Citizens United? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 10:38 AM Response to Reply #34 |
113. She gets her CAUSE MONEY from fascists intent on overthrowing democracy.... |
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Deadgnome (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 10:04 AM Response to Reply #25 |
111. Yes and no |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 12:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
29. actually two of the supremes should have recused |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 12:20 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. actually, I believe their meeting |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
3. K & R |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
5. For? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 11:03 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Attending secret political strategy meetings is 'good behavior' to you? Let's investigate and see |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 11:05 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Maybe I'm completely missing your point? |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 11:47 AM Response to Reply #10 |
24. Oh, I don't know...first they met with billionaire industrialists behind closed doors.. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 12:12 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Odd that anyone here at DU would spend energy questioning our citizen's right to accountability |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 12:20 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. What's the "collusion"? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 12:31 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Colluded for FASCIST agenda. That's apparently alright with you. So...what do YOU think their role |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 12:36 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. First off, "FASCIST" doesn't get scarier with capitalization |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 12:49 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. HAHAHAHAHAHAH. It's none of YOUR business? Then why are you here at a Dem activist forum |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 12:52 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Because I'm a Dem activist who takes my rights seriously |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 01:17 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Why is the bar only bribery to you? Why are you insisting judicial ethics were NOT breached here |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 01:27 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Because justices have the right to participate in political organizations with certain restrictions |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 01:31 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. sez you...if that is YOUR standard for unethical behavior then no wonder the fascists gained control |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 01:32 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. If you could point to something unethical they did, I'd be appalled and outraged |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Did you even READ the articles? It wasn't JUST a gathering of likeminded people - it was STRATEGY |
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Deadgnome (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 10:12 AM Response to Reply #39 |
112. I see where you are coming from |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 03:19 PM Response to Reply #32 |
74. as i recall... |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 03:24 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. thank you for that additional point... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 04:12 PM Response to Reply #74 |
83. Where do you get that? |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 06:45 PM Response to Reply #83 |
121. Um, from the Dissenting Opinion? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 12:19 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Did you have any doubt how they would vote on Citizens United? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 12:45 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. why the effort to suppress citizens' outrage over their secret meetings...citizens SHOULDN'T |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 12:59 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Well, see, there you go, you added "to direct funding for a political agenda" |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 01:20 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Did you read all the articles posted about these meetings? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 01:30 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Look, this was a big conference of conservatives in Palm Springs |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 01:48 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. sez you.......... again......... apologia express is ON the rails. Look away citizens who dare |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #30 |
55. Given their participation in the meetings, |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 01:55 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Why? |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 03:13 PM Response to Reply #30 |
71. Why do you believe that Citizens United was a bad decision? n/t |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 03:18 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Because I think the government's interest in preventing corruption... |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. you don't seem to mind the 'perception of corruption' when it comes to the supremes attending Koch's |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 03:26 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. So you believe that broad decision was overreach turning precedent on it's head? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 03:35 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Well, "de-legislating" from the bench |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 04:00 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. The way I understand it, the case was narrow in scope, but they ruled in a much broader context. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 04:20 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. "changed the case to give themselves an opportunity to change the law." |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 04:44 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. I could agree with you if Thomas, Scalia and Roberts were on opposite ideological poles, but |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 03:55 PM Response to Reply #24 |
81. Plus one......nt |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
11. The ethically challenged have stepped into the light. Not sure of the proper remedy. |
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Frustratedlady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
13. Maybe it isn't an impeachable offense, but a public uproar would slow them down. |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 12:34 PM Response to Reply #13 |
37. if one can show that they benefited-partisan political or monetary gain |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 08:01 PM Response to Reply #37 |
91. But what about ideological gain? Even without political gain (jobs for their kids?) |
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catgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
19. Talk about a conflict of interest! |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
44. They should have recused themselves from the Citizens United case. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 01:56 PM Response to Reply #44 |
57. Was Citizens United at the meeting? |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 02:04 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Well, we'd know if they hadn't kept it a secret! |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 02:09 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Again with the "secret". This was in the NYT |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 03:40 PM Response to Reply #62 |
80. no one is saying they were there RAISING money - they were at meetings where disbursement |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #80 |
86. They were at meetings where blowhards like themselves gave powerpoint presentations |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 02:04 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. WTF? Citizens United is being used here in the context of its RULING. Your disingenuousness is |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 02:08 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Citizens United was a party to the case that resulted in that ruling |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 02:16 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. aww...so sweet how you pretty up what they did...they hand over governance to corporate pals and you |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 02:22 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. You keep saying this: |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 02:50 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. I've got to give you a lot of credit. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 09:10 AM Response to Reply #68 |
105. lol... somebody has to stick for that poster |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #66 |
89. it was a conference with an AGENDA aimed at funneling $$ and influence in elections... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. ignore that person. it's just here to stink up the thread & keep others from reading. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
53. knr |
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mstinamotorcity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
70. Karl Rove is as crooked |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
72. It's a double slap in the face |
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proud patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
79. IMPEACH THEM NOW ! |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
90. NY TIMES LINK for those like me who missed the news story -- See the third from |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 07:38 AM Response to Reply #90 |
95. I just love how they equate "Freedom" with their continued wealth grab. |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 11:41 PM Response to Reply #90 |
122. WOW. So ,.... |
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jotsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 12:40 AM Response to Original message |
92. I've wanted impeachment pursued against these two all year. |
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Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 02:06 AM Response to Original message |
93. There is one on here that |
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RhodaA (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 07:43 AM Response to Original message |
96. Definition and Precedent |
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The Uncola (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
97. Good luck with this. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 08:19 AM Response to Reply #97 |
99. Sadly, my feelings as well. |
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The Uncola (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 09:50 AM Response to Reply #99 |
108. Yep... |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
98. I'm going to be a busy person for the next few days doing my patriotic duty...I'm on it! ....K&R |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 08:26 AM Response to Original message |
100. Oh, yeah, that'll happen. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 09:57 AM Response to Reply #100 |
109. if you demand nothing you won't even get the possibility of scrutiny reported... |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 10:46 AM Response to Reply #109 |
115. I agree. |
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savannah43 (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
101. It's the "appearance of impropriety" that they have |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
106. kick and recommend (nt) |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
107. yes, impeach their criminal asses out of our Supreme Court Bldg. |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 11:50 PM Response to Reply #107 |
124. The security guys decided... |
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breadandwine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
114. Oh. Didn't you hear? We can't impeach members of the Supreme Court. |
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breadandwine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 10:51 AM Response to Reply #114 |
116. From Coke cans to Koch brothers.... What's not to like? |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
117. Your SCOTUS: Bought and Paid for Since 2000. |
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