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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:45 PM
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I am **hoping** that this is a wake up call for the Democratic Party...
before it's too late.

I am hoping that this mid term election will serve as notice.
Most people don't log into DU every day. They don't log into that 'other' site. They just know their own families, their expenses, their ability to achieve or not achieve. To be accepted for who they are, or not.
And, when things don't really change, they vote for (what they hope is) change.

I can only hope that those who were lucky enough to keep their seats, for our Administration, for our elected to see this and realize that it is time for REAL change. Not just lip service, not just admonishments to wait one's turn. It is time to stand up for those things we believed were in you when we voted for you.

Please don't let us down.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:47 PM
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1. It never is. Because to "wake up" would mean standing up to their corporate masters
...and of course, they can't afford to do that.

Better to hand over legislative majorities to the Republicans, through sheer fecklessness.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:02 PM
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21. Well they have done it for two years why should the senate change now
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:47 PM
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2. If the Democrats don't embrace economic populism, the beatings will continue....
..... the populists have got to wrest this party from Wall Street.


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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:51 PM
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6. My heart broke when I saw the results start coming in for Michigan.
Has there been a call yet for Dingell? I love that man.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:53 PM
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10. He's taken a slight lead, and his strongest districts are still being counted.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:56 PM
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16. Oh good... He spoke at the St Clair Shores Dem club when I lived
there. I fell in love at first speak.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:14 PM
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26. I think this will make them even more reluctant
to rock the boat. They will move even further to the right.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:47 PM
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3. When the Dem Party serves the Dems we will respond.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:47 PM
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4. My thoughts, too!
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:51 PM
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5. Don't bet on it. They'll just take it as a message that they need to go further to the right.
Which means, supporting the status quo of the Plutocracy.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:51 PM
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7. no kidding, here come the DLC clowns big time.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:52 PM
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9. I am still hoping against it.
I am hoping for a lot, I realize, but I am still hoping.

Dr. Dean, we need you!
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:52 PM
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8. +1
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:53 PM
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11. Yes running to the right & running to the left don't work....in 2 yrs it could be Palin. .
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:54 PM
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12. If that wake-up call includes not giving in to the Twilight Zone party's crazy agenda
I hope so, too.
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:55 PM
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13. K&R!
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:55 PM
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14. They'll grab this as the excuse they need to move even more right.
Less internal dissonance when the tax and "entitlements" cuts come up.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:56 PM
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15. In a way, it is a wakeup call for the Democratic Party to clean house
First, by firing Tim Kaine for a poor job handling the elections.

Disavow from DLC - preferably permanently - remake Democratic Party as the true Democratic Party, nothign from the center-right to right. They can go suck on Republicans for all I care. It's time to clean house, even if it means losses to conservatives for the incumbents, but it's past time to put those tired old crapzola divisiness to rest forever. We must be united as one, and Progressives and Socialists are more involved now than before to make this work.

Force DCCC to rewrite policies on how they need to distribute money - the Grayson withdrawal was a bad one, and he needed the $ the most to fend off $13M worth of useless, lying attack ads. Now I have no reason to spend money to Orlando, Florida next year. I was hoping Grayson would retain it, so his district would be blue. But alas, it is not the case, so no funds from me.

Finally, get the Democratic Party's shit together, remove corporate personhood for good, and remove all other idiotic right-wing fuckwittery out of here.

Hawkeye-X
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:57 PM
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17. +1000000000000000000
I agree. Tonight should be a huge wake-up call.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:57 PM
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18. WE NEED the "wake up call," not the party. WE NEED to move on.
Tim Caine coming out today and indicating that they may go with making the Bush tax cuts permanent is NOT a sign that a lesson is being learned.

At what point are WE going to realize that the Democratic Party is not really progressive. It is only progressive as is allowed by the Republicans that Democrats continue to cede the issues to.

J
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:58 PM
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19. It won't be, it will be business as usual
it's still win win for them, it's the people who lose.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:00 PM
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20. That's just fucking hilarious.
They were handed the probationary baton two years ago. They blew it.

Gear up for 2012, cuz we've got a bigger fight coming.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:07 PM
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22. What's *fucking* hilarious???
You've lost me there. It's *fucking* hilarious to hope that we'll finally get some leadership? Should we all just *fucking* give it up now?

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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:14 PM
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25. It's hilarious to think this might be a wake up call.
Considering the Dems out of a job now, I can see them thinking a further push right would benefit them.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:16 PM
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27. I can't. I can see two more years of no change with the "new improved"
newly elected Senators, Reps, and Governors not really doing much for the people I referenced in my OP. I can be hopeful that it's a wake up call flvegan. Otherwise, I've got nothing left.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:23 PM
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31. Fair enough.
I'll stand with you on hopeful. I'm usually far more positive than this. Florida, tough night, sorry.

I'm hopeful too. I really, really am. I'm just doubtful at the same time.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:26 PM
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34. Me too, to be honest flvegan, which is why it's hope, and not no.
I can only imagine the pain of watching that race tonight for you. I am sick about what has happened in MI. Texas? Well, I kind of knew what I was getting into, but, on the plus side, I live in a progressive area.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:34 PM
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36. They blew it big time.
Not so much that the repubs deserved to win. Far from it, but moreso that the democrats deserved to lose. This administration should have focused on putting unemployed back to work from Obama's first day in office.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:08 PM
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23. And, they'll achieve that real change how with a Republican House?
That's why punishing those in elected office in your party by taking your ball and going home doesn't work.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:09 PM
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24. No more hearty applause when nothing is done in the name of the D.
Less DLC. Less complacency. More support from the people for candidates who stand for the people.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:20 PM
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28. I think the Democrats did what needed to be done to take this country forward.
I don't think they need a wake-up call, they need a PR agent who can frame the things they have accomplished better.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:23 PM
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30. Re-read my post. Re-framing things doesn't change the livelihoods
of the people who vote. Re-framing isn't going to bring about equality, health care, an end to the war... They need a hell of a lot more than frames.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:23 PM
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32. I agree with you
Dems did a lot of good things. This Congress did more than most Congress ever do. People simply do not appreciate what this Congress achieved.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 07:38 PM
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40. People that say BS like that is why we are in this situation. This is NOT an image problem. (nt)
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Sheepshank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:21 PM
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29. When the Senate can already hold up 420 bills
that have sailed through the House...how much movement is really going to happen?

Yeah, huge wake up call for Senate Repukes to start cooperating so they can show that electing them accomplished 'something'.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:24 PM
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33. they have accomplished so much in 2 yrs. and it is simply ignored. do tell, where the
encourgement is when we dont even acknowledge all they did accomplish
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:29 PM
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35. There is nothing to "tell" on my part, seabeyond. So many of you
are hopping past the most important part of my post, because you log into freaking DU every day. So much of what they have "accomplished" in the last 2 years hasn't born any fruit for the average voter, who DOESN'T LONG INTO DU EVERYDAY. The average voter sees only more of the same.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:35 PM
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37. It won't come from them. If there is change, it will have to come
from us.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 07:00 PM
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38. Well sign me up.
I'm in.
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ldf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 07:29 PM
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39. too late
i can only hope that SOMEONE will fill the void. but it won't happen within the democratic party.

the democratic party is dead.
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