Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

The country has just Katrina'ed itself

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
garthranzz Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:06 PM
Original message
The country has just Katrina'ed itself

heckofajob
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:08 PM
Response to Original message
1. Oh, come on
Look. When the economy is bad, the party in charge suffers. I love me some Obama but if our economy had been better in 2008, we might have had a president McCain.

We're going to be fine. We have retained the Senate and we have the executive. We will be okay.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:35 PM
Response to Reply #1
15. the senate will put the breaks on the house and in two years
they will be gone. they will also show themselves to be what they are. fuckers.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:57 PM
Response to Reply #15
19. Yep
No argument here.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
southmost Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:08 PM
Response to Original message
2. yeah the voters did one heck-of-a-job
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:09 PM
Response to Original message
3. Nonsense. We still have the Senate and the Presidency.
It's a setback but not a disaster. Not nearly as bad as 1994, and look what happened after that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ninten12 Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:16 PM
Response to Reply #3
11. The reich wing really showed their stuff -
and IMPLODED! They will do so again! I would like to see some more Howard Dean out there to try and force the wing nuts to actually answer some questions.

The old white folks (tea baggers) don't like the dark-skinned guy in charge. They don't have any ideas or solutions. While the wing nuts got their orgy of war, the Chinese put on the spiked stilettos and have been damaging our asses ever since!

Nice knowing you America. What destination is that after graduation? British Columbia? Shanghai? Luxembourg perhaps?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kelly1mm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:21 PM
Response to Reply #3
12. NAFTA, Welfare "reform", Repeal of Glas-Seigel .... post 94 was peachy! nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 12:39 AM
Response to Reply #12
20. I think you misunderstood my point.
Regardless what you might think of what Clinton actually did after 1994, the point was that despite the fact that the Dems lost badly that year, Clinton still won reelection in 1996 and was able to govern even though the GOP continued to narrowly control Congress. We are better off now than in 1994 because we still have the Senate as well as the Presidency.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:11 PM
Response to Original message
4. heckuvajob America
From sea to oil slicked sea.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:11 PM
Response to Original message
5. agreed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:11 PM
Response to Original message
6. we still have the Senate, this isn't so bad , there is no way we are always going to win
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ninten12 Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:32 PM
Response to Reply #6
14. Actually there is a silver lining...
The "Blue Dogs" are gone. Harry Truman was right. Given a choice between a Republican and a Democrat acting like one, the Republican will win every time.

I think that it was a good thing to purge those losers from the party. I just can't wait for all of the goodies that the wing nuts give their followers. Oh wait, it is the kkkorporations that will be getting them all.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:41 PM
Response to Reply #6
18. Yeah, that's been working great for us
not
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:12 PM
Response to Original message
7. well, Ohio sure has
we are fucked.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maryellen99 Donating Member (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:13 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. so has Michigan
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ninten12 Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:36 PM
Response to Reply #10
16. Don't forget Florida!
They get what they deserve! The former industrial bastions of Michigan and Ohio get no sympathy. They want the high-paying jobs and benefits but they are a bunch of wing nuts getting what they really want.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:13 PM
Response to Original message
8. unbelievably offensive.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:13 PM
Response to Original message
9. Step of the ledge, this could have been much worse....to use your hurricane annology
This storm has been downgraded.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
John Commonsense Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:32 PM
Response to Original message
13. I would like to argue that the SCOTUS Campaign-finance decision Katrina'ed the USA.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ninten12 Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:39 PM
Response to Reply #13
17. Do you think?
Do you think that the sources of the money will ever be fully revealed? There are a lot of reporters out there investigating and a lot of the wing nuts don't want to say. Hell, if you have to whisper, it must be scandalous!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
garthranzz Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 11:32 PM
Response to Original message
21. To explain my metaphor

Which some of you got: I recognize that the result could have been worse. I know that after major shifts and accomplishments, there's a backlash (1862 - Lincoln lost the House in part because the war wasn't going well, in larger part because he was going to free the slaves; in 1938 FDR lost the House after passing Social Security; in 1948 Truman lost the House because Dixiecrats were shown that Blacks could fight as well as Whites, and the Democrats didn't pull a WWI Frenchie.)

I lived through Katrina. My parents lost their house and my father's Alzheimer was hurricaned into the late stage. I came back, fought back and helped rebuild. As did so many others.

History: Katrina was a man-made disaster, brought on by neglect, ignorance, corruption and indifference. Had the levees been built properly, or inspected properly, they would have held. It would have been a disaster but the city would not have drowned. Had Shrub and his puppetmasters not been interested in PR - had they paid attention - the rescue would have begun on day one, and the draining on day three or four.

The rational for and conditions that led to the "red wave" parallel the thinking of people and leaders pre-Katrina. And like Katrina, damage could not have been prevented, but some planning and thinking and acting could have minimized the damage.

Like Katrina, once the waters recede, we'll rebuild and recover, stronger than before - and when we've returned we won't look for those who weren't with us when we needed them. (Read: blue dogs)

hope that helps
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 30th 2024, 11:29 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC