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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:38 PM
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The seeds of tonight's defeat were planted back in 2006.
When the American people put us into power, we refused to wield it. An end to the wars? Investigations? Impeachment? All were taken "off the table."

Single Payer? Off the table. Don't Ask Don't Tell? Off the table. Real Wall Street reform? Off the table. A jobs bill? Off the table.

So tonight, the American people took Nancy Pelosi off the table.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:38 PM
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1. K&R
:applause:
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:39 PM
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2. knr nt
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:40 PM
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3. Pelosi passed a lot of bills. Our senate was the weak link.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 12:01 AM
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8. The bills were not significant enough for the times.
People rightly expected and need much more. Main Street still feels like it has not been heard.
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PBass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 12:12 AM
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10. Well, more "significant" bills would not have passed the Senate, either.
And maybe not the House, either.

I thought Pelosi did a great job with a tough position.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 12:16 AM
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11. Maybe so. But people needed and deserved much more than what we got.
Pelosi did to a good job. I don't agree with her on all issues, but she may be the single most effective politician in Washington.
imo
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:41 PM
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4. Refusing to defund the wars
was a huge mistake.
Don't forget Rahm and his Blue Dogs, they bit us in the ass more than once.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:41 PM
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5. No, no, no. It's because people *noticed* all that stuff
If the "professional left" had just ignored all of those issues, the Dems would be rolling to victory tonight.

(yes, :sarcasm:)
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 04:30 AM
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17. You mean stuff like repealing bankruptcy reform, and renewing FISA?
We'd better out-repuke the repukes, or we'll get our asss handed to us.

Oh....wait.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:53 PM
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6. Will the Republicans be so kind? n/t
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JoseGaspar Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 04:00 AM
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16. Now there is a $64,000 question...

Impeachment for War Crimes was off the table. "Looking backward" at War Crimes came off the table in 2008. Over 1000 were indicted in the Savings and Loan scandal (which did a small fraction of the damage that the banks as whole did in 2007)... not one has been indicted in the current recession.

And now, the Republicans will try to impeach Obama... as they tried to impeach Clinton.

Brilliant, no?



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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:55 PM
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7. Not according to the exit polls
Edited on Tue Nov-02-10 11:56 PM by TwilightZone
The economy dominated them, almost exclusively, and specifically the issue was unemployment. People don't care about Bush's impeachment or lack thereof. They're worried about putting food on the table and finding a job after two years on unemployment.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 12:07 AM
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9. Remember those are the exit polls who went out to vote.
Those who are not motivated to vote by the lack of will to bring Bush and Cheney to justice, as well as by the lack of will to end the wars - don't get exit polled.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 04:32 AM
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18. The idiocy of re-electing the dolts who f'ed the economy in the first place
is astonishing. Repukes get 8 years to muck things up, and because Dems didn't fix it in 2, we get blamed?

Honestly the lack of critical thinking in this country and the insane control Repukes have over the media has reached the point of no return, I'm afraid.
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StarburstClock Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:25 AM
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12. You speak the truth
If 1 war criminal would have been charged, whether they were ever tried and convicted or not, it would have been a completely different story tonight. Same goes for universal health care, getting out of either "war" or impeachment.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:36 AM
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13. Bull. Voters are mad because the economy is dead.
Not ailing, not in crisis, not in a downturn -- DEAD. They're mad and acting like mad people act; destructively.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 05:25 AM
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19. And the perception, based on the HOST of items in the OP, is that the Democrats CANNOT or DO NOT
CARE to, LEAD.

Americans wil ALWAYS follow (perceived) strentgh over reason, if that is the choice.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:36 AM
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14. dupe
Edited on Wed Nov-03-10 03:36 AM by Codeine
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:38 AM
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15. The American people wanted bold action and the Dems gave them?
lukewarm oatmeal...

All the while we were saying eat it, it's supposed to be good for you.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 05:26 AM
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20. Exactly. Americans prefer bold action EVEN IF it is wrong.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 08:50 AM
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21. Hear, hear!
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 08:50 AM
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22. K and R (nt)
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 10:27 PM
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23. We have got to stop being a party controlled by wimps.
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