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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 05:14 PM
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George Soros Tells Top Prog. Donors To GIVE ELSEWHERE ' If This President CAN"T DO WHAT WE NEED '
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"...Soros told those in attendance that he is " used to fighting losing battles but doesn't like to lose without fighting. "



" WASHINGTON -- At a private meeting on Tuesday afternoon, George Soros, a longtime supporter of progressive causes, voiced blunt criticism of the Obama administration, going so far as to suggest that Democratic donors direct their support somewhere other than the president.


The Hungarian-American financier was speaking to a small side gathering of donors who had convened in Washington D.C. for the annual gathering of the Democracy Alliance -- a formal community of well-funded, progressive-minded individuals and activists.


According to multiple sources with knowledge of his remarks, Soros told those in attendance that he is "used to fighting losing battles but doesn't like to lose without fighting."


"We have just lost this election, we need to draw a line," he said, according to several Democratic sources. "And if this president can't do what we need, it is time to start looking somewhere else."


Michael Vachon, an adviser to Soros, did not dispute the comment, though he stressed that there was no transcript of a private gathering to check. Vachon also clarified that the longtime progressive giver was not referring to a primary challenge to the president.


"Mr. Soros fully supports the president as the leader of the Democratic Party," said Vachon. "He was not suggesting that we seek another candidate for 2012. His comments were made in a private, informal conversation that was about the need for progressives to be more forceful in promoting their agenda. He was stressing the importance of being heard by elected officials."


Dissatisfaction with the Obama administration was not limited to Soros's private gathering with donors. On Wednesday morning, Deputy Chief of Staff Jim Messina received several tough questions during his address to the Democracy Alliance. According to a source in the room, he was pressed multiple times as to why the administration has declined to be more combative with Republicans, both in communication and legislative strategy. Another source in the room said the exchange was not entirely contentious as people were simply expressing frustration about the fact that "we just came out of an election where the right wing and the Republicans distorted what was going on."


Requests for comment from the White House were not returned, though a Democratic operative sympathetic to the administration said that Soros's dissatisfaction with the White House was "hardly news." Sources who relayed that and other exchanges insisted on anonymity, citing the strict rules against talking to the press that come with being part of the gathering.


The tone nevertheless was said to be notably different this year than in past years. In 2008, representatives for Obama were received relatively warmly when they pitched the need to shepherd funds to the presidential campaign. Other progressive institutions were left -- somewhat bitterly -- looking for scraps. But, by and large, the donor base felt their investment had been wise, with Democrats regaining control of the White House and padding their majorities in Congress.


This year, following a drubbing in the 2010 elections and some stalling on major legislative items, the dynamics were notably different. As one attendee put it: "It was a sober atmosphere... people are looking for answers but they are not unwilling to do the work."


While Soros's comment gave some attendees the impression that he'd cheer a primary challenge to the president, the point, sources say, was different. Rather, it is time to shuffle funds into a progressive infrastructure that will take on the tasks that the president can't or won't take on.


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<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/17/george-soros-obama_n_785022.html>

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 05:17 PM
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1. Yeah!
"Mr. Soros fully supports the president as the leader of the Democratic Party," said Vachon. "He was not suggesting that we seek another candidate for 2012. His comments were made in a private, informal conversation that was about the need for progressives to be more forceful in promoting their agenda. He was stressing the importance of being heard by elected officials."

Even Mr. Soros realizes that we need to get off our asses instead of complaining 24/7! :bounce:
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 05:23 PM
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2. " He was stressing the importance of being heard by elected officials."
There are those in this administration who appear to consider our attempts to make them listen "complaining".

Obama might heed Soros' comment about "losing without a fight".


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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 06:34 PM
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10. I recall a massive effort was made by ALL persuasions back in 08 to bring about a historical result
The collective effort was successful!! Yet, some within the Democratic party, including independents truly felt that REAL change to steer this nation forward progressively had finally arrived. We all bought into the ' change ' idealism. Unfortunately, this road has been less than fruitful for many to say the least.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 05:28 PM
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3. it's not us that are on our assess and caving all the time nt
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 05:33 PM
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4. So we don't know exactly what was said
So we can't really interpret it with much confidence
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 05:35 PM
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5. Isn't Soros with the raise my taxes crowd? Nt
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 05:51 PM
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8. Not with the raise "my" taxes but with the raise taxes on the wealthy
which he happens to belong..I agree wholeheartedly with this approach.. If Obama won't act like a Democrat and buck the Republicans in what even Obama says are unhealthy policies then why support him. I am a Liberal and will always support Liberal causes but Obama is moving further and further away. It is about to the point of not only will I not support him with work and money but I will not even vote for him...
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lise Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 06:02 PM
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9. I'm pretty sure he
is pro VAT- Value Added Tax (popular in Europe). It adds taxes on to just about everything you could possibly want or need to buy but is "hidden" because not recorded anywhere you'd see it.

For instance, taxes get added all along the way through the various production stages. In the end, the thing ends up costing 30% more than it needs to but since it's not a "sales tax" you won't see the the added cost on your reciept from the store.

It's a super regressive tax on the middle class and poor. Just what we need right now. sarc/off.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:52 AM
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13. Soros supports a tax on financial transactions, like the Tobin tax...
not the VAT tax.
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Cal Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 05:40 PM
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6. Who's 'WE', rich man?
:shrug:
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:53 AM
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15. +100.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 05:51 PM
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7. I wish he would invest in a TV station that has a progressive view 24/7..n/t
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:20 PM
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11. do we have a progressive infrastructure?
I'd be happy to work within it.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:55 PM
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12. punish blatant malfeasance? what a strange thought! nt
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:53 AM
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14. george soros is not your friend.
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