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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:01 PM
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$3 million Spiky towers are the talk of the highway
Spiky towers are the talk of the highway

Council Bluffs, Ia. - Art lovers hoped to provoke a discussion about public art when they commissioned a $3 million set of metal sculptures titled "Odyssey" at the 24th Street interchange on Interstate Highway 29/80 near the Iowa-Nebraska border.

They succeeded far beyond expectations. Suddenly, almost everybody in the Omaha-Council Bluffs area and well beyond seems to have become an art critic. They're voicing their opinions - mostly critical - in local newspapers, on the Internet, and to anyone else willing to listen.

The towering abstract artwork, created by renowned international sculptor Albert Paley for the Iowa West Foundation, was installed in August on four corners of a highway overpass bridge. It's intended to represent the transformation of the land through machinery and agriculture.

Many describe the jagged-edge contemporary sculptures in unflattering terms, a few are enamored by the artwork and others are simply baffled. One critic labeled Odyssey the "Nightmare on 24th Street," a reference to a 1984 slasher movie. A Nebraska man told police he was so distracted by the head-turning sculptures that he rear-ended another car.



http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20101126/NEWS/11260351/1001/Spiky-3-million-towers-are-the-talk-of-the-highway
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:05 PM
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1. I like it . I see the destruction of of the working class in it ...and other things.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:08 PM
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4. I like the way it flows, hard to focus on just one area (nt)
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:55 PM
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17. I like the way it PREVENTS flow
Flow is overrated.
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sammytko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:36 AM
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34. i like it also - looks like a plow in a swirl of industry
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:06 PM
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2. I was there two weeks ago. These are really cool.
I even stopped and took pictures.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:06 PM
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3. LOVE it!
Anything is better than that giant Jesus statue.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:09 PM
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5. This is why traffic circles are great

In places with lots of traffic circles, folks find the most intersting things to put in the island in the middle of them.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:11 PM
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7. I used to live in Bakersfield and remember Garces circle:


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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:09 PM
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6. Reminds me of arizona State route 51's notorious pots:
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:16 PM
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8. All I can say about that is, it reminds me of this:
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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:16 PM
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9. Maybe they'll learn to love it.
Edited on Fri Nov-26-10 11:21 PM by pa28
Representational art misses just as often so it's not always the solution. See Portland's (in)famous "family night at the Y"

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41894180030@N01/386009710/

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the redcoat Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:17 PM
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10. Sorry, not a big "abstract" fan
Putting random shapes together and saying "This means what I say it means because I'm the artist" does nothing for me.

I wonder what was so wrong with painting some public murals that certainly wouldn't have cost $3 million.

I don't mean to belittle the artist's work, but it's just not for me.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:19 PM
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12. Abstract "art" is mostly pretentious crap for fellow snobs.
Us "philistines" are not meant to understand it, the snobs would feel humiliated if us little people "understood" their crap because their self-esteem is based on their snobbery.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:25 PM
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13. LOL... Something we can agree on.
I remember seeing a cartoon once of an art critic much like myself standing in front of an abstract painting explaining the piece...

"I call it Cum To Me because it looks like cum to me."
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 03:50 AM
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22. Hah! n/t
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:33 PM
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14. I think of abstract like Rorschach - Don't care what the artist says it is, make up my own mind
I like this particular piece as it is not something I can just glance at and then look away. There is a lot to see.

Probably not good though on a busy road though :)
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:57 PM
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18. I'm with you. Just give me some dogs playing poker.
Now, THAT'S art.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 12:29 AM
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20. Not my cup of tea either. nt
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lib_wit_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 03:42 AM
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21. Abstract artists don't put "random" shapes together any more than musicians put random notes
together. Particular notes, often within the same key, are chosen specifically to express something.

I don't know a lot about it, but it seems to me that the abstract artist puts together elements in a similar fashion. As in both music and any other sort of art, I'm curious as to what the artist meant to express. I won't necessarily get out of it what the artist intended, but I get something.

Frankly, I don't always bother to ascertain what I believe the artist meant it to represent, or even or what meaning I perceive. I just know how I feel about it. The forms, colors, textures. scale, and other aspects combine to evoke a positive or negative reaction from me.

I once believed that the fact that I didn't respond positively to most of the abstract art I saw meant that I didn't like abstract art, but over time I've seen quite a bit of it I do like. This sculpture is one f the most recent examples.


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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:17 PM
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11. ART!?! That thing is GHASTLY.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:52 PM
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16. I suppose the 'artist' had to do something with all that junk piling up in the backyard.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:36 PM
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15. Is that tail sticking out going to be ok when it has a couple feet of snow on it?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 12:02 AM
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19. Looks more like a weapon than art --
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 03:54 AM
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23. self delete
Edited on Sat Nov-27-10 03:59 AM by Obamanaut
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 04:13 AM
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24. This article, and the replies in this thread, prove one thing to me
All I see here are knee-jerk "I hate it!"s. How about telling us why you hate it? Can't? That's because you have no training in how to talk about abstract sculpture (or, let's be frank, any type of visual art). If you think an artist grabbed a bunch of crap and crazy glued it all together, you A) are incorrect and B) have been robbed of the arts education you should have gotten.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 06:28 AM
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25. Ummmm, ahhhh, we hates it because it sucks and stuff like that
Actually, I like it and anything that amends the usual dreary hiwayscape...
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 06:35 AM
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27. I'm an artist.
I've got training, like all kinds of artistic styles including abstract, know art history and I despise that garbage.

Snobbery is part of what has alienated ordinary people from art.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 07:12 AM
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28. How much 'training' does one need to be able to comment on public art?
I note the irony of requiring 'training in how to talk' about tax-payer funded art....it is art for the people, but HOW DARE the people comment on the art provided them by their betters?

Having spent a good deal of my life within regular viewing distance of Paley's "Synergy," having attended Paley's recent retrospective at the Grounds for Sculpture, and having your basic liberal-arts degree and several graduate degrees, I feel as if I might be 'qualified' to opine on this one.


I get why he used the 'ship' metaphor, and I think he's being too clever-clever. Yes, Council Bluffs is the start of the Mormon Trail, and yes, the 'ship' is a metaphor in the mormon religion, and a yes, we 'get' how this is a starting place for many an 'Odyssey.' And yes, there are plenty of statutes commemorating the Trail, and the 'handcart' and the 'covered wagon' and one wants to be innovative....But these ships fall flat---

Instead of being a truly original work, I find them strangely derivative of Arnason's recent Sunship. Further, Paley's interpretation looks less Homeric than Monty-Pythonesque; the ships remind me of set-pieces stolen from Time Bandits.

Not his best.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 07:41 AM
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30. This might be part of the problem - one needs "...training in how to
talk about abstract sculpture..."

One does not need such training to wonder why a local artist rather than one with international renown was chosen.

One does not need such training to imagine how many books could have been bought, or teachers hired, with that $3 million. Or food for the poor, or shelter for the homeless.

And it does look like someone, anyone, did in fact grab a bunch of crap and crazy glue it together.

"But hey, now someone with "training" can talk bad about the untrained ones.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:48 AM
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32. Well done, sir.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 06:33 AM
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26. Fine example of how to alienate ordinary people from art.
Nothing like putting twisted metal which evokes the look of a junkyard wreck alongside their highway to make people feel positive.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 07:14 AM
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29. I don't like the combined colors of the source materials.
It does indeed look as though the artist was trying to put five of the most uncomplimentary colors together.

Given the diverse shapes of the piece there's nothing to tie it into a unified whole.

Maybe that's what the artist was going for, but that doesn't jibe with the title "Odyssey".

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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:18 AM
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31. That would be pretty cool in a different setting.
But I don't think commuters really want the intended feelings it provokes.
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ThomThom Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:45 AM
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35. like what they might look like if they crash while looking at it
I like it but a different location would be better. Who can appreciate art at 65 mph, only Americans.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:32 AM
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33. abstract is well over 60 years old & been de rigueur for public works for decades.
and, the greater cardinal sin, far too much of it is sloppy and uninspiring. gov't counsels for public architecture & public sculpture needs to get over themselves -- this noise is old, common as dirt, and everyone sees through the pretension.

i'd dare half the gov't counsels that OK these slipshod, vacuous, self-congratulatory works if they can even name any truly scene changing abstract sculptors/architects past the latter half of the 1960s.

i like abstract art. but i also have high standards and like variety, too.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:59 AM
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36. I thought it was just the latest cell phone antenna technology.
Now, I find out it's art. Who knew?
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xor Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 10:01 AM
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37. teehee
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 10:03 AM
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38. I like it, but I can see that it would be a distraction to drivers. There's a lot to look at.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:30 PM
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39. it has the feel of a pirate ship
running as fast as it can into the 22nd century...forget this one!
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704wipes Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:42 PM
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40. eh, stick a few microwave nodes on it for cell phone transmission
and tell them they will get better coverage on their cell phones, and all the penny ante critics will be fine with it.
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