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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 08:50 PM
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Giuliani biographer: attacks on Rudy are comparable to Swiftboating of Kerry
Edited on Thu May-24-07 08:51 PM by sabra

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=3209656&page=3

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Fred Siegel, a Giuliani biographer and a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute's Center for Civic Innovation, said he sees an early parallel between the current attacks on Giuliani and the withering campaign organized against Kerry in 2004 by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.

But Siegel added that Giuliani is so well known by the public that it may be impossible for rival campaigns to tar him as an ineffective leader, even if some of the critiques have some validity.

"This is potentially damaging, but I wouldn't overplay it. People saw for themselves what happened, and it's very hard to counteract that," Siegel said. "People have their own experience with how he handled 9/11, and their own experiences visiting New York, and that will make it much harder to 'Swift Boat' him."



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youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 08:52 PM
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1. Except for the fact that they are true allegations against Ghouliani and LIES about Kerry
But other than that, they are exactly the same.

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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 12:51 AM
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5. I find it amazing that Republicans deny that their man Bush failed to defend America on 9-11
and that Rudy harassed poor people under his 8 year reign and that Rude He did not stop the attacks either.

Well I hope that Independents have finally realized that the Republiklan party cannot defend America and not make the mistake again to vote for another Republican for President in 2008 and beyond.

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 08:55 PM
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2. Bwahahahahaha. thank you, I needed a laugh.
True things about his weaseldom vs lies about Kerry? Ohhhhkay
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 09:13 PM
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3. simply amazing! the two instances of "swiftboating" that jagoff cites are.....
Edited on Thu May-24-07 09:29 PM by Gabi Hayes
TRUE, by his own admission!

this is what they do: challenge ANYBODY to bring up St. Rudy's record....DARE them, because he's so POPULAR. the article mentions that this is why his pug opponents are loathe to take him on.

and, in another section, they quote one Lee Ielpi as downplaying the firefighters' antagonism toward him, because they're democrat-supporters. They call Ielpi a "retired firefighter"

problem is, they "forgot" to mention Ielpi's ties to......whom?

that's right:

http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/mrs_panstreppon/2007/mar/11/is_lee_ielpi_a_member_of_firefitghers_for_rudy_or_not

this is the kind of M$M covering for Rudy that you can expect all down the line....inexcusably shoddy, corrupt coverage
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 09:41 PM
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4. Swiftbotting is, by definition, UNtrue. Last night it was funny/scary that a WINGNUT
from California, one of Ahhhnuld's aides, said that she would be leery of Rudolphus because he has an EXCEEDINGLY STRONG AUTHORITARIAN bent!!1 Ordinarily, that would be a PLUS for a wingnut!!1
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