Just WTF Did We Work Our Asses Off For the Past 2 Elections?

[we can do it]

Let's just fucking surrender, let's compromise, let's not even bother to try. I HAVE FUCKING HAD IT....I all for a serious primary contender, Dr. Dean start howling. I am so sick of the fucking wimpy ass, roll over and die without trying attitude I couls puke....I am sick of being told I don't count.....Promises my ass - HOPE my ass

[PBS Poll-435]

1. Just what is your specific complaint? nt

[we can do it]

10. You Want a List?

Healthcare, DADT, Bushco not held responsible, the escalation in Afganistan, torture, not using the majority he was given, Geitner et al.......

[PBS Poll-435]

15. Well

Health Insurance reform passed by the narrowest of margins.



DADT is on track for repeal.

Bushco was never going to be held responsible no matter who was elected President.

Afganistan escalation was a campaign promise.

and on and on and on...

[PeaceNikki]

20. It's Melodramapalooza, just run with it.

[PBS Poll-435]

22. I'm feeling combative today

Sick at home but still working.

:P

[sudopod]

85. Well, when you put it that way

it really makes me want to get out there and phone bank for the guy.

[derby378]

81. WHAT health insurance reform?

The companies responsible for making a mess of health insurance in America are not only still in charge of the whole process - in 2014, it will be illegal not to purchase coverage from them.

This is not the sort of change Ginny and I worked for, let alone voted for.

[gateley]

2. Let's just hang on for another couple of weeks to see what actually does happen -

not what they're telling us.

[defendandprotect]

11. What -- ?

:rofl:

[gateley]

18. I know. I never learn.

:7

Even Glass Half Full gateley is becoming discouraged. These are two biggies (the unemployment and tax extensions for the rich) that I don't see any wiggle room on.

[defendandprotect]

23. And universal health care wasn't a "biggie" .... ?

You do realize that Obama made back room deals with Big Pharma to ensure that

Medicare could not negotiate on drug prices --

and that he made a similar deal with private HC industry to keep single payer

"off the table" -- ???


Rahm "crowing" about preserving "private health care industry" ... business s/b grateful!

August 12, 2010

”In a Thursday interview, White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel argued that rather than recoiling against Obama, business leaders should be grateful for his support on at least a half-dozen counts: his advocacy of greater international trade and education reform open markets despite union skepticism; his rejection of calls from some quarters to nationalize banks during the financial meltdown; the rescue of the automobile industry; the fact that

the overhaul of health care preserved the private delivery system;

the fact that billions in the stimulus package benefited business with lucrative new contracts, and that financial regulation reform will take away the uncertainty that existed with a broken, pre-crash regulatory apparatus.

http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=B2F85DDF-18...

[gateley]

43. Yeah. I know all this. What's your point? Just because I didn't include these

you're assuming I think there was no problem?

You don't know me.

[defendandprotect]

45. You know all of that and yet you are willing to still trust Obama .... ????

[gateley]

50. Up to a point. This may be the make it or break it for me. I understand that

others have already written him off, and that's fine, but I WANT to believe because I feel he has so much to contribute. But I'm not willing to keep hoping for the best and being disappointed much longer.

[Poboy]

72. I am way past the backstabbing bullshit as well. -nt

[we can do it]

39. You Said That So Nicely

[paparush]

64. gately, how many times do recall saying that exact phrase during the last 2 yrs?

I've caught myself saying quite a few times.

[dionysus]

3. you didn't get the shwag bag?

:shrug:

[Cant trust em]

4. I'll tell you this much. I didn't work my ass off to save federal salaries. nt

[we can do it]

9. Gawd Forbid We Protect the Saleries of Average Americans

let's just keep those dollars flowing to the top - no middle class Americans deserve decent pay.

[defendandprotect]

16. Agree -- This is all such farce as to be sickening ..... CEO salaries/bonuses still flowing!!

[Cant trust em]

34. They have decent pay. No one is getting fired. nt

[Lorien]

53. Um, yes they ARE getting fired in droves. And 28k a year is "decent pay"?

that's what one Federal employee I know makes. Want to fuck the economy more? Take money out of the pockets of the middle and working classes-and that's just who the Federal workers are. :grr:

[Cant trust em]

56. I bet I can find dozens of others who are making quite a bit more than 28K too.

[jeff47]

89. Could you find one bank executive making that little?

Perhaps we should have them pay a tad for saving their asses, instead of making middle-class federal employees pay.

[Cant trust em]

91. We can have the CEOs pay. I'm not opposed to that.

It doesn't have to be an either or proposition.

[CTyankee]

62. This is such a shame. We shouldn't be falling for the "divide and conquer" tactics

of the RW, not while our treasury is being sacked by Robber Barons. I have plenty of neighbors who are government workers (at all different levels) and our neighborhood is NOT affluent. In fact, these government workers stabilize a middle class community. If people could just view a government worker as a neighbor, a member of their church, a parent at their kid's school, someone you run into at the supermarket or post office...just ordinary people, just like yourself, then maybe they would see the government employee in another light...

Divided we LOSE!

[CTyankee]

63. This is such a shame. We shouldn't be falling for the "divide and conquer" tactic

of the RW, not while our treasury is being sacked by Robber Barons. I have plenty of neighbors who are government workers (at all different levels) and our neighborhood is NOT affluent. In fact, these government workers stabilize a middle class community. If people could just view a government worker as a neighbor, a member of their church, a parent at their kid's school, someone you run into at the supermarket or post office...just ordinary people, just like yourself, then maybe they would see the government employee in another light...

Divided we LOSE

[Scruffy1]

68. Give em hell-I'm sick of these lies about federal workers

Even the pension is funded from deductions and under FERS is only one per cent per year.
The health insurance is about average and expensive like everyone elses.
According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics the Federal employees make 22% less than their counterparts in private industry.
Most of the lower skill jobs are contracted out so were talking Doctors, researchers, judges, attorneys, software engineers, civil engineers, hydrologists, nuclear engineers, veterinarians and a whole lot more.

[sudopod]

86. Every time I see one of those "federal workers have it coming" posts

I want to scream.

[girl gone mad]

35. But record banker bonuses at the expense of the taxpayer..

workers and savers is a-ok.

:eyes:

[Cant trust em]

36. I didn't say that. Perhaps you are referencing someone else's post. nt

[Lorien]

52. Federal salaries= working class people's salaries. Or are you a "Govmint" hater like

every other Republican who doesn't understand that what sets America apart is a Government OF THE PEOPLE.

Maybe corporate rule pleases you more, then?

[Cant trust em]

55. Your attempts to put me in a box are quite tired.

I think that in general the services the government provides are good, however, I'm not going to unequivocally support a bureaucracy.

[we can do it]

60. People Jealous of Working Middle-Class Need To Be Put In a Box

and just how do you expect this country to run without workers? and do you not think that these good citizens contribute heavily to our economy and other's jobs????

[Cant trust em]

82. Like I said (and you conveniently missed)...

I support government services, but I don't unconditionally support the bureaucracy. Having worked with government at all levels, I can see quite apparently that there is certainly some largesse there. We should be mindful of those things if for no reason than it puts the rest of the programs we actually care about at risk.

[monmouth]

5. Is Obama really a Blue Dog???? I didn't vote for a Blue Dog...n/t

[tblue]

12. Watch what he does, not what he says, then you'll know.

Its been clear to me for a long time.

[Individualist]

14. His actions and inactions leave no doubt at all.

[FiveGoodMen]

79. Don't kid yourself. He's a red dog.

[chimpymustgo]

88. A red dog, he is.

[DontTreadOnMe]

6. The next 30 days will decide

I think if Obama does not solidify the Democratic party in the next 30 days, there will be a primary contender.

And it won't matter who the primary contender is, it will be the death of Obama's re-election chances.

[defendandprotect]

19. You don't believe what Obama has done in 2 years...? But 30 days will convince you?

:rofl:

[thunder rising]

27. I'll give him the 30 days, in fact he's got a year ... then, I'm working for someone else.

[Individualist]

7. Government of, by and for the corporations.

[BzaDem]

8. Perhaps one of the things you worked for was to have Obama rather than McCain name judges to our

judicial branch?

Or is the judicial branch something you're not too concerned about either way?

[we can do it]

13. So Then Why Not Use Recess Appointments? It Might Seem Mean

he is continually blocked and ROLLS over.

[BzaDem]

25. Recess appointments only last a year. He got over 40 lifetime appointments confirmed already. n/t

[defendandprotect]

21. Meanwhile, what has the DOJ under Holder done? Think the Bush people are still there!!

[BzaDem]

26. I'm not talking about the DOJ. I'm talking about the judicial branch. n/t

[defendandprotect]

46. You're talking about the SC ..... I'm talking about DOJ and Holder ....and AGs ....

[NorthCarolina]

17. An illusion. nt

[treestar]

24. he'd have to compromise too

I think you're just unrealistic.

[we can do it]

61. Compromise Does Not Equal Roll Over

It does not equal forgetting who got you elected. It does not equal not fighting for anything other than a rebound.

[NNN0LHI]

28. The problem is that elections are not the answer to all our problems

Got to fix some stuff our self. Or it won't get done. President Obama is not The Wizard Of Oz.

Don

[we can do it]

65. More Like the Scarecrow

[FiveGoodMen]

80. I'm signing a new bill into law as we speak.

[Bozita]

29. This toon seems to fit nicely with the OP ...

And I really don't think it's about North Korea at all.

[Poboy]

75. good cartoon.

[obxhead]

30. hmmmm

While I agree, I feel OP should have little more substance to go along with the rant. Obviously something took you over the top.

[we can do it]

37. I'm Cold and Tired of Hearing How the Poor and Working People In This Country

are the root of the problem. When in reality it is greed.

[obxhead]

42. yes, the greed of the rich

not the needs of the poor.

[we can do it]

67. OMG If I Hear ONE MORE Old Fat WHite Man In a Scooter Talking About Welfare

and how its bankrupting us and how its good we stopped socialism - I SWEAR I am going to tip his ass over

[obxhead]

69. LOL, steal his battery!

[we can do it]

70. OMG where did you get that smily?

[stray cat]

31. You did that for 2000 and 2004 - how did that work for you?

[we can do it]

40. I Did What? I Have Never Surrendered, Just Getting Tired of the Broken Promises

[Sonoman]

32. Don'tcha mean 'WHO'?

Same motherfuckers that Obama and the entire Congress work for.

You'll just never get the chance to meet them.

Sonoman

[Cant trust em]

33. Dupe. nt

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

38. Politics-as-usual disguised as "Change".

[CakeGrrl]

41. Get off your ass and mobilize - don't just sit here crying through your keyboard

You'll have to do a little work to persuade Dr. Dean if you're up to it - he's publicly said he's not going to challenge in a primary.

[we can do it]

44. I've Been Off My Ass, 100+ houses a day canvassing 2004-2010. You?

I'm not crying I am fighting mad and sick of appologists.

[woo me with science]

78. Sheesh. nt

[lonestarnot]

47. To see what it looks like after it's compromised. I hear it's going to be much skinnier.

[Liquorice]

48. Well to be fair, Obama always said he wanted to work with republicans. I could

never understand why he doesn't see that you can't work with these psychopaths. During the primary he and his supporters kept talking about how the Clintons were divisive and that THEY (and not the republicans) were the cause of all the vitriol in the 90's. The argument was that Obama was this new type of "post-partisan" politician who was going to bring everyone together and somehow get republicans to work with him.

I always knew that would never happen, and he was either naive or lying. Now after watching him in action, I think he was just naive. I really wish he would stop trying to work with these psychos and come out with a strong agenda for change. But I just don't think he has it in him. He is not a fighter.

[we can do it]

51. He Spent All His Fight On Hillary

[Liquorice]

54. LOL, He fought her much harder than he ever fights any republican, that's for sure. nt

[Poboy]

74. True observation. Pathetic, but true.

[AndrewP]

73. I guess his pro Reagan comment should have warned me

that he wasn't exactly going to be a warrior against the right.

[Kaleva]

49. I learned decades ago not to put politicians up on a pedestal.

There are campaign promises and then there is reality.

[ProSense]

57. "I am so sick of the fucking wimpy ass"

First time I've ever heard this hyperbole.

Seriously, take a review of what the President has accomplished. While you're reviewing it, understand that he's undoubtedly proud of these achievements.

You may not like them, but there are a lot of people who appreciate the progress being made. It's likely very few, if any, of them are Republicans.

[dreamnightwind]

59. Nice post

You should do this for a living, you're good.

I don't think Obama is wimpy at all, I think that's giving him too much benefit of the doubt. He's tough and knows what he's doing, it just isn't what he claims he's doing when addressing the public.

He's representing the powerful, so his refusal to challenge that power isn't wimpyness, it's him supporting who he considers to be his real base.

Want to see how un-wimpy he is? Watch him when he deals with the left. You think he gives up the compromise position right away before any haggling takes place, the way he does with the Republicans, like the wimp he supposedly is? Hell no, he gives little or no ground when it comes to the left. He pistol-whips us, then as we wipe our poor and bleeding lips he laughs and tells us to "buck up" or enjoy living under the Bad Cop Republicans. Fucking retards all of us.

It's OK though, pretty soon, maybe in a year, he'll pay attention to the left again. He'll begin to be the man we thought we voted for. He'll throw us a few bones. Until the polls close, then it'll be back to the corporatist he really is.

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, uh no I don't think so.

Primary and 3rd party, we should pursue both paths, whatever it takes.

[we can do it]

66. Here It Is Again Then.

I am so sick of the fucking wimpy ass, roll over and die without trying attitude............

While I appreciate what has been done, it is VERY DISAPPOINTING when you consider what could have been done. What momentum could have been still used if he had only kept EVERYONE in the loop like he did during the campaign.

[AnArmyVeteran]

87. If a boat has 100 holes and you fix only 10 will it stop it from sinking? No...

Yeah, a few things were accomplished. But not one of them required that Obama take a stand, not one. Pelosi is responsible for those achievements, not Obama. On every matter where Obama could have been forceful he failed miserably. DADT, Gitmo, two wars, tax cuts for the rich and on and on, Obama caved. I haven't seen one instance or any shred of evidence that Obama has any courage at all. From everything I've seen he is a coward who has turned his back on the American people. I will never support or vote for him. I don't let anyone betray me twice.

[wo ooo]

58. a plutocracy

if you will

[newtothegame]

71. a REALLY cool chapter in the history textbooks...

and collector's plates, and t-shirts, and "Hope" posters...

[MrSlayer]

76. Hope is the denial of reality.

And the reality is that both parties are the same corporatist scumbags. The only real difference is on social issues.

[babsbunny]

77. I am crying more these daze......

Our beautiful Country we loved so much is gone.

[tjwash]

83. What...the 30 post war years after WW2 while we gravy trained off of no world competition?

Because the other 210 years have been pretty much like this...or worse.

[AnArmyVeteran]

84. Until we can buy him at auction we will never be represented. The US is a whoredom...

Our government is a whoredom filled with corporate prostitutes from congress to the White House. They are owned by their corporate masters (pimps) because they are all for sale.

Elections won't matter. The system is rigged, corrupt. Nader was 200,000% right. But no one had the guts to vote for someone with convictions. Nader worked his entire life trying to make life better for all Americans. Obama did nothing for anyone prior to or after the 2008 election. If you want change you can believe in then CHANGE the way you vote. Blindly and mindlessly voting for a republican or democrat will give you the identical results. Both major parties are in collusion with each other. They are all just prostitutes in the same big whorehouse.

But people will continue voting the same way and expecting different results, a definition of insanity.

[Better Believe It]

90. It's not just President Obama. Look at the paralysis and incompetency in Congress