so why hasn't Obama operated as a unitary executive?

[StarsInHerHair]

it may give him the strength he needs. for those who may object to lawbreaking: we may have to break some laws to bring our country back from the brink the GOP brought us to, like Robin Hood, straight up, not reversed.

Watched a tv movie tonite, Lauren Holly, Christmas themed. The characters complained about the economy and I checked it-made 2010.

In the last years of Clinton there wasn't alot of tv movies, films, tv series commenting how bad the economy is; this is a GOP/TP theme, happened in the 80s with Reagan, happened with HW Bush, happened now with W.

compare 2000 vs 2008, the outlook for America, what a contrast!

Time for change-remember Clinton did this same bipartisan dance and the Right tried to impeach him. You did not win office by talking like you are now.

[Radical Activist]

1. Do you mean more like Bush?

Because Obama believes in restoring the rule of law and the balance of power that the Constitution created. It's part of his core belief system.

[Hawkeye-X]

2. And yet breaks the Constitution

by continuing this illegal war. (Yeah, promises... promises...)

Not following up on the war crimes.

Not investigating false charges against Don Siegelman.

[Radical Activist]

8. Checks and balances.

These are things Pelosi should have dealt with as soon as Democrats gained control of Congress. That's what Congress is supposed to do.
And the justice department torture investigation is ongoing.

[StarsInHerHair]

3. so THAT'S why he derailed the law to protect war criminals W

and Cheney.

So what you're saying is Pres. Obama is no Robin Hood, in these times of poverty, when banks steal people's homes even when it's been paid in full, where the wealthy break laws at will & everyone else is hamstrung by viciously designed bureaucracy.

How is overlooking all this "upholding the law"?

[PufPuf23]

6. Rule of law is prosecution of War Crimes and Torture and financial

crimes.

Obama does not support the rule of law and the balance and source of USA power is an unknown to me.

There were many indicted and convicted in the S&L meltdown; even a Bush was barred from the industry for life.

The current financial crisis is much broader in scope and there are few indictments or convictions. Bonuses are just great.

[Radical Activist]

7. The Outrage DuJour

[frylock]

10. people have been outraged about war crimes for several years now..

long before obama burst onto the scene. try and keep up, mkay?

[Radical Activist]

12. South Park is great sometimes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4_tOiLB_Ko

[treestar]

19. OP advocates breaking "some laws."

Really a lot of people here are losing their minds.

[frylock]

9. comedy gold!

[niceypoo]

13. Does his 'core belief' in the ' rule of law' apply to Bush Cheney war crimes?

If it is 'part of his core belief system,' why didn't he go after Bush/Cheney for war crimes, etc?

People with strong 'core beliefs' don't throw their constituency to the wolves.

[Radical Activist]

14. The Justice Department torture investigation is ongoing.

I'm trying to think of what governmental body has a law about lying us into war that Bush could be prosecuted under. There's no federal law. No binding authority at the UN. Is that a local ordinance in DC?

If Bush is going to be held accountable it has to be done by Congress. That's their job. It should have been done before Bush left office.

[niceypoo]

15. The Obama admin is participating in a cover-up of war crimes

The Obama administration actively COVERED UP Bush war crimes by pressuring Spain not to prosecute. These (wikileaked) cables reveal a large-scale, closely coordinated effort by the Obama State Department to obstruct these criminal investigations.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/12/protecting-american-war-criminals.html">Protecting American war criminals

Sorry to pop your balloon, but there is a big difference between, 'unable to do anything about it,' and PROTECTING the Bush administration from prosecution.

If someone actively and intentionally protects war criminals from prosecution, does that make them complicit in the war crimes?

[Radical Activist]

18. ZOMG!!11!!1!

Your link and the source it quoted don't support your overdramatic language. No, I'm not surprised that the US tried to get a friendly judge, or that an embassy would work for the interests of a former official being prosecuted by a random foreign government. It sounds pretty routine. They did a lousy job of this so-called cover-up since the details are frequently reported in numerous publications.

Do you support the ongoing justice department investigation into torture?

Why are you letting Pelosi off the hook for not holding Bush accountable? This is one of the Constitutional obligations of Congress. Hold her feet to the fire!

[TexasObserver]

4. I don't believe he possesses the managerial skills required of that.

He has no concept of using the power of the presidency. In my lifetime, no president has failed so materially to recognize and use the power of the presidency. When you're freshly elected and have whopping majorities in both houses, you don't call a truce and try to find middle ground.

It's as if he had the GOP checkmated, but then he knocked over his own King. He conceded on a winning hand.

I don't think he has any vision on how to run the country. He's lost in his regimen. He still believes he can make everyone his friend by capitulating until they like him. I consider his story to be one of the saddest of my life. He held so much hope, so much promise, two years ago, and he blew it with weak leadership that continues to this day.

[Imagevision]

5. Bilderburg, the people who installed Bush installed Obama...

[bluetrain]

11. +1

[VMI Dem]

16. Weakness of leadership.

[Poboy]

17. Because he thought he heard 'eunuch ' executive?

[mmonk]

20. touche

:rofl: