I still believe in Obama.

[howard112211]

I think he surrounds himself with the shittiest of people, but I still think he wants to do the right things. I'll vote for him again.

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[mmonk]

2. Believe what you wish.

I no longer want my vote going to dismantle what's left of the New Deal legislation that moved America forward for so long. I do not want to do any more harm.

[cali]

3. I don't.

but I'll probably end up voting for him.

[WVRICK13]

4. I No Longer Believe in Him

but I would rather be drawn and quartered than vote for a Republican. Kind of a sad affair.

[mmonk]

5. Then vote for a progressive Congress.

That will be my approach from now on.

[WVRICK13]

32. I Wish I Could

vote for a progressive Congress. Have you noticed the WV choices? I only hope we have better choices in the future.

[mmonk]

36. I understand.

Send a donation or two to the Progressive Caucus.

[MannyGoldstein]

6. Isn't surrounding himself with swine reason enough

To vote for someone else in the primaries?

In the end, shouldn't the question be whether the presidency succeeded or not?

[Stinky The Clown]

7. I hope that works out for you.

[steve2470]

8. k and r nt

[VMI Dem]

9. Obama could be the only guy in the administration and it still wouldn't be his philosophy.

Its always his entourage.

[Axrendale]

10. Indeed!

I too remain a believer, and would contend that not only is Obama the "least bad" choice, he is also a solidly capable figure in his own right who has worked hard to benefit this country, both at home and abroad.

[groundloop]

12. Yes Indeed. And there's only so much that can happen with the idiotic filibuster in the Senate

I believe we'd be in a totally different place right now were it not for the current filibuster rules. When a minority of 41 senators (plus Joe Lie-berman) can block anything from being done it's a sad situation. No amount of preaching from the bully pulpit, kicking republican ass, or whatever anyone wants to call it would have changed anything so long as republicans were able to filibuster in the senate.

[geckosfeet]

11. So do I. He is a good man. But I am pragmatic when it comes to choosing a leader.

[golddigger]

13. I don't. But, I will still vote for him if he

is the only Dem on the ticket in 2012.

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[somone]

24. There was a reason for the campaign slogan:

Keep Hoping He Would Change

[HipChick]

15. I'll still vote for Obama ..meanwhile..DU has become bash Obama central...

the constant vitriolic..overun by divide and conquer...threads like this get recc'd into oblivion..no longer seems like a place for democrats..

[Bluerthanblue]

18. i wish we could focus our energy towards actually doing

something constructive. Or at least talking about things that offer some measure of positive direction rather than attacking each other.

We are stuck in a terrible downward spiral.

:shrug:

[HipChick]

19. Exactly

[OneGrassRoot]

43. Posts focused on doing something with a concerted, positive effort...

disappear very fast.

I've tried. :(

:shrug:

Maybe it's just not time. After we reach critical mass in the chaos, maybe then people will be ready to focus to do something rather than bitching and moaning.

Venting and anger are good catalysts, but staying without at least trying to take action toward creating change assures that things will get worse...

[lunatica]

16. Maybe he thinks surrounding himself with the shittiest of people is the right thing

Doing the right thing is a relative thing. Right by who's standards? Reagan's?

I hope I'm wrong though.

[Nite Owl]

17. Those shitty people he surrounds

himself with are people he chose. Face it it's the way he wants it to be. He is no dummy but he sure is no liberal either. Last night Tweety said something about Obama admitting he was a blue dog to some group. In that light what he has done is no surprise then, this is him.

[somone]

21. NYT: "Mr. Obama has described himself as a Blue Dog Democrat"

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/01/us/politics/01bai.html?_r=2&ref=politics

[TBF]

41. He described himself as anti-war when he was campaigning. Wonder

what it'll be next year.

[piratefish08]

20. yes, the people around him. Pres. Obama - the poor, weak, influential victim of circumstance.

but pure as the driven snow. right?

bullshit.

[somone]

22. His staff made him do it

His staff gave him bad information
His staff gave him incomplete information
His staff wouldn't let him read newspapers or watch TV
:sarcasm:

[piratefish08]

26. absolutely. it couldn't be that he is carrying out his preferred agenda.

there MUST be somebody pulling his strings.


:sarcasm:

[bigwillq]

23. I agree

He did surround himself with bad people.
I do think he wants to do the right thing.


Not voting for him again at this point but there's still time for him to earn my vote.

[AngryOldDem]

25. A lot of people said that about Bush, too.

I expect better from a president who claims to be a Democrat.

[LeftinOH]

27. My yard sign from the 2008 election is in the garage; it's going back out there in '12..

I do not want to see another Repub in the White House. It'll surely happen again -but I'd like to see several years pass.

[theophilus]

28. Is that the symbol for anarchy? I'll bet you really don't believe in Obama much.

I don't blame you. He is the biggest disapointment I've ever seen in the political realm, in my opinion. I will be hurt more if Al Franken caves and doesn't argue against what we are seeing, but I think Mr. Obama is on track to be the worst president ever, yes even worse than W. I knew what to expect from W and he did not disappoint. Mr. Obama is in a totally different league. He is either a coward or a liar, in my opinion. Maybe facts will prove me wrong. I hope so.

[Tatiana]

29. Are you better off now than you were two years ago?

Most voters ask themselves that question and vote accordingly.

Though the economic crisis was not Obama's fault, he will share the blame for our current prolonged stagnant period of slow growth and high unemployment. Families are being devastated across this country... many of these families who voted for "Hope and Change" but didn't expect the change they got.

His measures were too moderate, his economic team too corporate/elitist, and we're learning that the President's style of negotiation involves pretty much giving the other side what they want, regardless of whether it will be good for the country or not.

If you're doing as well or better as you were two years ago, you probably feel great about this administration. But if you're one of the millions who have been utterly devastated by unemployment, foreclosure, and/or medical crisis... you're probably a little disappointed in the candidate you voted for. And make no mistake, I'd venture to say 99% of us voted for Obama, no matter which candidate we supported in the primaries.

[somone]

30. Many Democratic voters have been badly, badly hurt in this recession

And you're right, most voted for Obama in 2008 - some more enthusiastically than others, but most did.

[Gold Metal Flake]

31. Hope And Chains.

I believe that his surrounding "himself with the shittiest of people" is what I should believe in, which does not speak well of his intentions.

[asdjrocky]

33. Yeah, well, good luck with that.

My Mom was right, you can judge people by their friends.

[we can do it]

34. and Santa

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

35. I believe in him now. But I swear to God that I won't if he caves on these tax cuts.

The House is giving him a bill. And there's no indication that Reid will back down and do some kind of compromise in the Senate.

However, if Obama counters the House and Senate with some bullshit compromise, I will not support this president. I will no longer support him on anything.

That's my deal breaker. End of story!!

[Odin2005]

37. Ah, yes, we just "gotta have faith"!

:eyes:

[pintobean]

38. NYT writer says President Obama claims to be a Blue Dog

"The body of Mr. Obama’s writing and experiences before he became a presidential candidate would suggest that he is instinctively pragmatic, typical of an emerging generation that sees all political dogma — be it ’60s liberalism or ’80s conservatism — as anachronistic. Privately, Mr. Obama has described himself, at times, as essentially a Blue Dog Democrat, referring to the shrinking caucus of fiscally conservative members of the party."

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/01/us/politics/01bai.html

[Swamp Rat]

39. I hope he merits the faith of so many.

He's losing ground very fast.

I will likely vote for him again if the only other choice is a republican, but.............. :(

[TBF]

40. I won't vote for him again. Can't imagine why anyone would. nt

[ProgressIn2008]

42. Perhaps "believing in" the head of the exec branch is part of the problem. nt

[Jeffersons Ghost]

44. Next election he'll be the lesser of two evils. Another four years of a Bush-clone will finish us

[bluetrain]

45. How's that working for you?