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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 02:38 PM Original message |
The day that Barack Obama lied to me |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
1. He gave himself an out by saying "What I would want..." |
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griffi94 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 03:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. so he didn't really lie |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 03:05 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. No he allowed people to deceive themsleves. |
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griffi94 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 03:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. depends on what the meaning of is...is |
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BetsysGhost (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 05:19 PM Response to Reply #11 |
33. the meaning of is |
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2 Much Tribulation (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 12:41 PM Response to Reply #33 |
90. If a reasonable person would believe a certain thing that's deceptive, that is Deception as a matter |
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BetsysGhost (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 02:24 PM Response to Reply #90 |
102. got too crowded |
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pezDispenser (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 11:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
59. +1 |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. What's the definition of is again? |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 03:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. You remember the famous slick willie. |
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kctim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 04:41 PM Response to Reply #8 |
26. I never heard that |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 04:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
28. Well, that would be fine, except that it wasn't a case of 'he wanted |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 11:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
56. ""I would not want my first term consumed by what was perceived on the part of the Republicans as a |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 06:21 AM Response to Reply #56 |
72. I wonder how that will work out since I don't think he will get a second term |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 12:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
62. So making the folks believe something by obfuscation by manipulation of the english language |
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Moonbat2 (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 04:35 AM Response to Reply #62 |
71. six???? |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 06:48 AM Response to Reply #71 |
76. Yes. Get used to it. Obama will be President for six more years. |
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pengillian101 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 02:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
69. Exactly. |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 08:58 AM Response to Reply #1 |
79. The real key is that he fears the reaction of the Republicans. He runs scared. |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 09:58 AM Response to Reply #1 |
85. Right. And the Bush Admin never actually said Saddam was behind 9/11 |
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davidwparker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 11:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
89. I know its difficult to tell Obama is head of the executive |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
2. This is not a lie |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 03:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. In other words, executive privilege over democracy. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 03:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. No, it's just not a lie. n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. Deleted message |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 04:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. +1000. every day. nt |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 06:37 PM Response to Reply #15 |
36. fucking bravo! |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 06:40 PM Response to Reply #15 |
37. "Jesus-following" only applies to beating up gay folks. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 11:33 PM Response to Reply #15 |
52. Good grief |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 06:22 AM Response to Reply #52 |
73. no silly, you're on the obama fan club site. you're in the right place. nt |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 06:51 AM Response to Reply #73 |
77. So what are you doing here? n/t |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 03:00 AM Response to Reply #15 |
70. ...and what you were doing was NOT listening something else forbidden by plain logic. |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 05:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
34. - |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 11:44 PM Response to Reply #34 |
57. a dash? nt |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 07:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
39. -100 |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 10:55 PM Response to Reply #6 |
47. But it is weasel words |
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lark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 01:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
95. It may not be a lie - but is it 100% a deception |
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NightWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 03:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. "if crimes have been committed, they should be investigated". How do you know unless you inv? |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 06:25 AM Response to Reply #10 |
74. actually, bush has confessed to illegal wiretapping and torture on TV. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 04:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
32. Stop trying to defend him. He took an active part together with |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 06:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
35. Is there anything Obama could EVER do that you would not defend? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 07:21 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Of course: Move to the left. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 11:40 PM Response to Reply #35 |
55. Yes, |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 11:45 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. but you are okay with him extending the war and still operating black sites. |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 08:13 AM Response to Reply #55 |
78. We'll hold you to that. nt. |
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lark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 02:01 PM Response to Reply #55 |
96. So, you aren't in favor of his hand picked cat food committee? |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 10:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
43. What is your point? That rhetoric is not a lie? What is important is whether the Pres is protecting |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 12:16 AM Response to Reply #2 |
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nofurylike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 01:41 AM Response to Reply #2 |
67. you know it, and i know it. you always try, ProSense. i admire |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 09:01 AM Response to Reply #2 |
80. An apologist who is blind to the rruth. |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
9. Just a day? |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Must have been one with a y in it. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
12. Five months later Bush summoned McCain and Obama to the Oval Office. |
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ORDagnabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
13. meet the new boss...same as the old boss..just with prettier language |
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LawnLover (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
14. There's a big difference between |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 04:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Can you translate that into Spanish and forward it to Spain? |
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LawnLover (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 04:12 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. This has nothing to do with caring for justice |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 11:11 PM Response to Reply #20 |
49. what have logic and intellectual honesty done to deserve such raping? |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 04:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. But now we know that crimes were committed |
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LawnLover (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 04:19 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. I didn't say he didn't lie. nt. |
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Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 04:10 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Well now he has the man himself going around the country |
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LawnLover (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 04:19 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Except political reality. nt. |
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Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 04:25 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. And that is the problem |
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jtuck004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. The Attorney General serves at the pleasure of the President |
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LawnLover (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 04:51 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. This country is in the same mess it's always been in |
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displacedvermoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 04:42 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Political reality is that the investigations |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:05 AM Response to Reply #14 |
101. Its aweful hard to prove |
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Poboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
31. Meanwhile Holder sits around with his thumb up his ass. |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
40. Some background on what inspired the original 2008 question ... |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 11:57 PM Response to Reply #40 |
60. David Swanson's 2008 article ... bad policies or genuine crimes and what was known ... |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 02:57 PM Response to Reply #60 |
97. What we need is not time and resources but the will and the pressure to make it happen..." Exactly |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 11:11 PM Response to Reply #97 |
100. We need to look forward :( Swanson was right when he picked up on the bad policies... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
42. It is disappointing to find out that President Obama is no different that any other politician.... |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 10:22 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Is there anyone who is immune to becoming a politician? |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 09:44 AM Response to Reply #46 |
81. Your last sentence is a very, very telling statement....and makes one really wonder. |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 10:01 AM Response to Reply #81 |
86. I can easily believe that a lot of elected officials on the right |
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russspeakeasy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 12:02 AM Response to Reply #42 |
61. Brklynliberal as usual, in just a few words, nails it. |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 09:48 AM Response to Reply #61 |
82. Thanks russ. You're 100% right about Charlie. It was not good, but not as bad as it could have |
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placton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
44. every day, every way, he lies to you and me n/t |
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placton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
45. every day, every way, he lies to you and me n/t |
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mahina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 11:16 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. Goodbye. |
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UrbScotty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
48. Thankfully, 81% of liberal Democrats still support our President |
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nofurylike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 01:56 AM Response to Reply #48 |
68. yes, thankfully. thanks for saying it, UrbScotty! nt |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
51. K&R |
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tomm2thumbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
53. The 4th branch of govt still functioning, although mostly in other countries on our behalf |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 09:50 AM Response to Reply #53 |
83. Our media is virtually a wholley owned subsidiary of the corporate goons |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 12:44 PM Response to Reply #83 |
91. i.e. ARMY personnel 'working' as CNN interns. |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 04:26 PM Response to Reply #91 |
99. The Military/Industrial/Corporate Complex...as Ike originally wrote it... |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
54. This country has never prosecuted a seated or former President. It's a Limited Liability Corp. |
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westerebus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 12:21 AM Response to Reply #54 |
65. When in Rome. |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 01:50 PM Response to Reply #54 |
94. More |
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Bluesbreaker (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 12:10 AM Response to Original message |
63. He didn't lie? Read this |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 09:53 AM Response to Reply #63 |
84. Rachel did a piece on this last night. It was like a slap in the face. |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 01:14 AM Response to Original message |
66. You "emphasized" the wrong part. |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 06:35 AM Response to Reply #66 |
75. that's either disingenuous, stupid, or complicit. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
87. Well, he was right: the operative phrase was "SHOULD BE." He didn't say "WOULD be." |
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alturn (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
88. Focus on People Power, not Obama |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
92. How ignorant. The Justice Department torture investigation is ongoing. |
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MJJP21 (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
93. I really think |
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LittleGirl (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
98. I must be lost |
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