Thomas Hartman is asking is it time for Obama to step aside

[sasha031]

and let a progressive run...
http://radiotime.com/channel/c_57925/Progressive.aspx

[Major Hogwash]

1. Hahahahahahaha!!!!!

Best laugh I had all week.

[T Wolf]

2. We don't want a progressive because a progressive can never win in America.

That should shut up those whining libruls.

[CrownPrinceBandar]

3. We're gonna have to get a bigger bus........

Its getting kinda crowded under here.

[Metric System]

4. Right, because somebody to the left of the "socialist" has a chance of winning the Presidency.

[Deep13]

10. Anyone to the left of Goebbels will be painted as a socialist...

...no matter what his or her views really are.

[villager]

19. +1

n/t

[truedelphi]

25. You got that right. And someone with cajones will let it slide off,

While someone without them colludes with those who may someday (he hopes) stop saying such nasty things about them,.

Obama, no matter what you do, the racists will still being saying you're inferior. And those with money will still be labeling you a commie pinko, Hitler-moustached socialist!

So try and grow some.

[Forkboy]

5. Wasted energy...isn't going to happen.

[Subdivisions]

6. WTF is Thomas Hartman? n/t

[Kolesar]

7. I remember when Thom talked about Limbaugh and oxycontin for a whole hour

Thom "time to fill" Hartman

[RZM]

27. I'd never heard of him until recently

He has some good ideas and I do like his rather mellow delivery. Unfortunately, I cannot respect anyone who collaborates with RT, which is a cynical, shameless front for the Russian government.

[asdjrocky]

8. It's really too late.

Nothing in this country, because of Citizens United, can now be decided by our regular election process. If that wasn't broken before, by offering us a false choice between two sides of the same coin, the Citizens United ruling made sure the American Democracy was done for good.

We must change the system, or bow to our corporate masters.

[BzaDem]

9. What a shame Citizens United was allowed to happen. Oh wait -- that's right -- to you, Supreme Court

justices appointed by a Democrat and Supreme Court justices by a Republican are just "two sides of the same coin."

The fact that the liberal Supreme Court justices ALL voted against Citizens United is simply coincidental, or it didn't happen, or something.

[asdjrocky]

15. But it passed.

And it will be years, years, til it can be changed. I'm 50, without a job, and pretty fucking pissed off. This American doesn't have years.

Obama had a chance, and he blew it along with all the other week kneed dems.

[sasha031]

11. well at least it gives me something to perhaps hope for

I'm tired of getting depressed over what goes on in the oval office.

[Recursion]

12. Oh for Christ's sake

How are we going to get anywhere if the liberal commentariat keeps being such petulant, whiney idiots?

[Catherina]

13. He should but he won't. n/t

[TwilightGardener]

14. See, this is where the valid criticism ends and teh stoopid starts.

[w8liftinglady]

16. I love Thom,and was a Kucinich backer...but realities are what they are...

if we have any hopes of enticing moderate Repubs and conservative dems to remain on our side(Moderate Repubs DID vote Bill White in Texas...just not enough),we got to stay in the center.Now,what we say,we have to do.

[cilla4progress]

24. Are the independents happy with him?

I think we need to do what Bernie (Sanders) says: start a Tea Party of the left.

[Nite Owl]

17. It isn't even so much a progressive

but someone who can actually get out there and speak to the people in clear language about just what is at stake in what we do or don't do. Someone who isn't afraid of their shadow like Obama is. The people want and need to know that the President is on their side like FDR was. Was FDR an out and out liberal or really just a populist who got things done because he was fearless? He was loved and reelected over and over not because he never made a mistake but because the people knew they could trust him to be there for them. Obama is always deal making at our expense then expects us to believe what was done was a great achievement.

[NuttyFluffers]

18. i'm OK w/ resignation & Biden being prez right now...

but it isn't for me to make that decision.

(not that i expect all that much from VP Biden. too close to CC companies from his long stay in Delaware. but at least his fiery passion, and gaffs, will be an entertaining change of pace. i'll take foot-in-mouth disease as long as someone throws at least any punches towards the republicans. i don't want any more friends, i have enough friends. i want the political version of heads on pikes.)

anyway, there's lots of grassroots things to do locally. i'll just have to worry about my backyard. i'm off to tell my reps that the more flaming, irascibly liberal they are, the more they will have me support them right back. :)

edit: i'd be most amused if there was a real strategic play and both PotUS and VPotUS resigned and left current Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi as PotUS all during this lame duck session. now THAT'D be hilariously amazing -- i can see the RNC brain aneurisms from here.
:evilgrin:

[dragonlady]

23. You do know who is next in line after Biden?

The Speaker of the House. A President Biden could nominate a new vice president, but that person would have to be confirmed by both houses of Congress. In prior times the new president's choice would have been confirmed almost routinely, but with politics so crazy these days, it could remain up in the air for months.

[NuttyFluffers]

26. oh yes. that's why the window is so small currently (for a Pelosi PotUS).

however, it would be hilarious. and after Pelosi became president, honestly who'd care who is the VP? it's not like the VP is going to be used to break ties in the next fiasco of a congress. let her and the rnc go at loggerheads and pick up the pieces after two years. her district will be most assuredly safe after such time.

besides, even if it was Biden and VP was up in the air for months nothing truly damaging would get passed during such time. which is more than i can say currently. heck, we're worried something abysmal will pass through during a lame duck congress w/ a strong dnc majority -- that'd be unthinkable cowardice and capitulation just a few decades ago. and yet here we are, worried.

if it's all a farce, at least let it be entertaining.

[onenote]

20. apparently Thom realizes that no progressive could beat Obama

so instead he just wants Obama to pack it in? I'm sure THom sees the logic in that, even though there is none.

[alcibiades_mystery]

21. Maybe Walter Mondale's available?

:rofl:

[Ozymanithrax]

22. The last President running as a progressive and recognized at the time..

as a progressive who won was Herbert Hoover.

I don't think we are ready to elect another progressive like that.

[Recursion]

28. When FDR campaigned against him he railed against all the "government interference"

and talked about getting the government out of the way so businesses could recover. Strange times.