Just in the last day or so it's been reported that one of the women apparently DID tell him to stop when she discovered he hadn't used a condom but he didn't stop. That's the first I've heard of anything remotely close to what actually occurred during the sexual encounters. I don't know what exactly occurred and neither does anyone else here and biggest point which I have brought up before is that the media is the biggest problem since they started running with this story in that until very recently they hadn't been saying anything about what all was alleged by either women even when they claimed to have seen police reports. I'm NOT saying he's guilty, I'm saying it's POSSIBLE that he is and maybe even likely. The media has damaged the reputations of both the women and Assange in their shitty reporting of this since the story first broke which isn't fair to any of them.
Sorry, but I'm not buying these women trying to get revenge since both of them could have claimed they were raped, but they didn't. They both freely admit that the encounters started out as consensual and didn't go to the police to make a claim of rape. They went because they wanted to know if he could be forced to take an STD test, since they were both concerned about that. How is that getting revenge? What woman tries to get revenge by going to the police not to make a false rape charge but to find out if he could be forced to be tested for STD's and both freely admitting that the encounters were consensual or at least started that way?
I also get why neither woman considered going to the police until after finding out about each others encounters with him. I've been there. More than once with different men at different times. I know personally what it's like to be technically raped by someone that during consensual sex in which the consent stipulated using a condom the man deliberately took it off, continued the act and ignored my complaints to stop. And I say technically raped only because although I was angry and upset I didn't FEEL raped and only felt somewhat like that after finding out in the case of the last man that he had done the same thing to others. Yet even THEN I still argued in favor of not having been raped because I still didn't FEEL like I was and didn't WANT to. And I STILL don't want to because I don't want to feel worse about it than I already have and still do to some extent. I never did go to the police and still wouldn't however much others tried to convince me to and maybe I should have if not for my own sake but for other women that would have similar encounters with these guys and they WOULD feel raped. So, yes, I totally get why neither woman considered going to the police until after they found out each other's stories because I myself never considered it either until after hearing the stories of others with the same man. Denial is REALLY powerful when such a thing happens to you and anyone should be able to understand that many women who have been raped don't consider going to the police until they've talked to someone else who is able to convince them they should.
The fact that neither of the women went to the police until after finding out about each other's experiences with the same person and that neither one of them went for the purpose of accusing him of rape and both of them could easily have lied and claimed the sex was never consensual in order to get revenge but didn't makes a HELL of a lot more sense than the reasoning for going to the police was because they were pissed off he's had sex with someone else and wanted to get revenge that isn't even revenge since neither one claimed they were raped and freely admitted that for both of them the sex at least started out as consensual.
Whatever Assange's attorney says in his defense has to be taken with a boulder of salt since defending him to the best of his ability is his job. Of COURSE he's going to claim his client is entirely innocent and is being unfairly prosecuted, etc., etc., etc. He'd be a crappy attorney if he didn't make such claims.
Incidentally, while these claims are going on by his attorney that Sweden's justice system has refused to cooperate, etc., etc. he's been working with them appealing Assange's case, and he lost. Now, Assange is charged with rape, sexual molestation and unlawful coercion...
http://gizmodo.com/5705457/wikileaks-julian-assange-is-not-a-rapist?utm_medium=twitterDec 3, 2010 01:52 PM
Updated: The Swedish prosecution office has now issued a notice saying that they are charging Assange with rape, sexual molestation and unlawful coercion. He has been "detained in his absence". Here's the notice:
The matter concerning Mr. Assange
The Matter concerning Julian Assange has been detained in his absence charged with rape, sexual molestation and unlawful coercion. Mr Assange had appealed the detention decision issued by Svea Court of Appeal.
Today the Supreme Court has taken a decision not to grant Julian Assange leave to appeal. If the Supreme Court is to hear an appeal, leave to appeal must first be granted. Leave to appeal is only granted if the case is assessed as being very important to the application of the law or if other extraordinary reasons apply.
The arrest warrant is based on the detention decision that has now been examined by all three legal instances. The additional information requested by the British Police concerns the penalties for the other crimes, in addition to rape, that Julian Assange was arrested for. This information will be supplied immediately. The previous arrest warrant stands.
The notice is from Sweden's Prosecution Authority site:
http://www.aklagare.se/In-English/Again, I'm not now nor have EVER claimed that he's guilty. I've repeatedly said that nobody KNOWS what really happened and no one here is in any position to claim he's innocent and make claims about the intentions of the women, the intentions of Sweden or anyone else especially when especially when in order to do so you have to ignore what makes sense and claim that both women did this deliberately so that both the countries of Sweden and US would collaborate to bring charges against this one spokesperson of Wikileaks because of revealing classified information particularly when it doesn't DO anything to stop Wikileaks' revelations or what anyone thinks about them.
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