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remember2000forever Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 08:36 AM
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Do Any Of You Remember The Term...Cradle To The Grave?

It was supposed to be: joining a company, making a decent wage and sticking with your job until retirement brought you a nice pension. A real and solid middle class senerio. Unions kept up with cost of living expenses.

My son is graduating from a University next week. He's thinking about Officer's Training School. He feels major companies do not have any job security. (And he's a Business Major)

I'm now terrified that "Cradle To The Grave" will take on a brand new meaning in his decision.
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 08:42 AM
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1. Yeah, I remember
Had totally forgotten about it though. Seems almost laughable these days. Hell, it's been pretty laughable my entire working life.


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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 08:45 AM
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2. Keeping people around is not part of the model anymore
The model now is: Use them until they're spent, then discard them.
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 09:03 AM
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9. no, it's use them till you find someone willing to do it cheaper
or higher two part-timers to fill the full-time job so you don't have to give them any benefits.


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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 09:12 AM
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11. We've become Kleenex People. nt
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 10:42 AM
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14. Greyson said it,
'Don't get sick, if you do - die quickly.'
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 08:45 AM
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3. Had not heard that in a long time. I can remember
when one worked for a company for 25 years, retired and got a gold watch.
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 09:04 AM
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10. and a good pension - and a party with cake
and an unlimited open bar.


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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 08:46 AM
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4. Companies used to have values that read something like this
"People are our most important asset"

Today, everything in the corporate world is about one thing - the investor.

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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 08:46 AM
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5. Maybe the Business Major
Edited on Sat Dec-04-10 08:47 AM by mstinamotorcity
can start his own business. And start by basing it at home. Tell him to find out what it is he loves and formulate it into a business proposal. Maybe you can make it a shared business. Those businesses where every one makes the same wages. Everyone has a stake in the business doing well. Even the janitor makes the same as the ceo.Everyone is treated equal.Maybe you can join in with your son and start a family type shared business.Don't give up yet!!! There are a lot of Marketable things you can do but haven't tapped into yet. Take your time and put your thinking cap on and take a chance on yourself. And when you succeed don't forget to hire another person with a dream.You will SUCCEED!!!!!

TOMBStone
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remember2000forever Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 08:48 AM
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6. Very Good Advice!
Thanks!
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 08:55 AM
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8. Just Glad
I can be of help.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 08:48 AM
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7. No, it's supposed to start earlier - infant healthcare, and education
"from the cradle to the grave" is about the whole of society, and government services in particular. Companies do not help you when you are a child. It's not "from graduation to the grave".
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remember2000forever Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 09:15 AM
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12. You Are, Of Course, Right ....
However, isn't it scary that the kids are now thinking "Military" for job security?
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 09:24 AM
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13. The GOP still use it to put down the idea entitlements and social
programs.
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RZM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 11:51 AM
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15. There's also this . . .
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Hun Joro Donating Member (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 12:48 PM
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16. And most companies won't hire anyone over 40.
So you go to work for a company, they discard you, no one will hire you, and...we raise the age for Social Security. What has become of our nation? What is to become of us?
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 01:05 PM
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17. Now it means you will work until you get put into the Grave.
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