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"What do you think? Nevermind whether or not homosexuality is right or wrong. That is it's own debate altogether, for those who insist on making it a debate. Should the military be forced to accept gays when the jury is still out in the rest of society?"
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" There is disagreement on the issue. As long as there is disagreement on the issue, should the military be forced to make change that society has not yet accepted for itself?
You continue to argue the rightness or wrongness of gays in the military, not the question that was asked."
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The above is from a friend, his dad chimed in as well:
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"While the matter of race is one of birth, the source of a persons sexuality is still unaswered and undetermined scientifically. Accordingly, while racial integration may or may not have been the right thing to do, to legally force sexual proclivity integration upon anyone, military or civilian, seems to me to be yet another example of the "nanny state" intruding into the lives of we civilians and forcing yet another 'social imposition" upon our miltary "just because we can". Is this real justice?"
I have chimed in quite a bit on this issue (more than once, this conversation has come up a few times) - the poster is a former Marine.
These are the folks we are fighting against day in and out. The beck/rush lovers, the folks we might have grown up with (as in this case), relatives (some who have also chimed in on the issue), etc.
What do you say to such people? My first reply to the initial post was: "The military is made up and paid for by all US citizens, They asked the members and they overwhelmingly supported gays in the military. Gays already DO serve. If someone can handle Bombs, Bullets, IDE's, etc they can surely handle knowing the person beside them, their fellow American, is different than them. If they CAN'T handle it - maybe they are not cut out to be in the military in the first place."
What would you say, and I will toss it out there to them.
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