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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:07 PM
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Is there anything Obama hasn't compromised (sold out) on?
Anything?
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:08 PM
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1. Rick Warren. n/t
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:15 PM
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8. Absolutely rock solid and non-negotiable.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 10:47 AM
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34. Then when he said that about
his "gut instincts", I knew that gut said "Feed me caviar!"
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:10 PM
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2. No matter how often it's repeated, it's still baseless. n/t
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 01:16 AM
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29. Your post, or the OP?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:10 PM
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3. Donnie McClurkin
He was unmoved.
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LawnLover Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:11 PM
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4. Is there anything ANY President hasn't compromised on?
Reality is a bitch.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:26 PM
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15. Lots of things
Going back only a few years, Dim Son didn't compromise on hardly anything. And he had far slimmer majorities than we did.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:53 PM
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21. Lincoln was pretty strong on preserving the Union
Jackson killed the Bank.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 05:20 PM
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37. A whole bunch of them.
Ask me, I'll give you a list.
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LawnLover Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 08:27 PM
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40. Sure, let's see it
Life is a compromise. President's compromise. It's the nature of the game.

And I'm sure any list you show us would be full things that went through a period of compromise before the final outcome was reached.
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LawnLover Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 05:04 PM
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43. Still waiting....
tick tock, tick tock...
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:11 PM
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5. Stem cell research and financial aid reform. nt
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:11 PM
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6. He still has the puppy. n/t
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:20 PM
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10. Nope, that wasn't great either because he passed on rescues
and got a purebred from a breeder instead.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:28 PM
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16. It was a gift from Ted Kennedy.
And he had to find a breed that his daughter wasn't allergic to. But I hear you. I adopt senior dogs from rescue. :hi:
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:33 PM
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17. Yes, I do the same thing -
my current pup is an English Lab - about 6 yrs old. Some medical issues, but he's the greatest dog with a very sweet temperament.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 11:44 PM
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23. Kudos to you, my friend. Your sweet pup was so fortunate to have found you...
My breed was cockers, grew up with one, but I've also had terriers. My dogs have been older, too, 8-10 years old when they found me, and I've never been disappointed. However, my current little guy was a pet shop rescue, was being fostered by a vet tech who used to work for my vet, and she knew my other dog, same breed, so she contacted me. I adopted Meneken at age nine, his elderly owner had died. But Jack found me at five months. Yikes! Now I know why I adopt the older ones, since I was not used to a puppy, LOL. But he's four, now, and I'm hoping to have him for at least the next 20 years... :D :hug:

Jack :loveya:


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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 05:21 PM
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38. I got two puppies from rescue.
Both Lab mixes. The white one, Lab-Springer last year at nine weeks, the black one, Lab-Golden last month at ten weeks.

Pics taken yesterday.


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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:54 PM
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22. The kids have allergy problems
I give him a pass on that one, and this is from somebody who volunteers for a rescue group.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 07:38 AM
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33. You know I did a search for "Portuguese Water Dog" and there are breed-specific
rescues. You would think you'd know that since you're holding yourself out as some sort of expert. Lame.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 05:09 PM
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35. There are breed specific groups for every breed.
I still don't hold it against him, it was a gift from Ted Kennedy. There are many reasons why dogs are in rescue, some of which are behavioral, and some are for a tendency to run. Out of all things you can be mad at him about, I don't agree that this is a big deal.
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:13 PM
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7. He didn't kill the Thanksgiving turkey - twice now
Meanwhile: A United Nations report says over 1,200 Afghan civilians lost their lives in the first half of 2010...
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:16 PM
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9. I have plenty of criticisms when it comes to Obama, but ............
there are many promises he did keep. I would argue that he has capitulated on every one of his MAJOR campaign promises, but he did keep many of his smaller promises.

Here's a list of his kept promises: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/rulings/promise-kept/
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:25 PM
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14. So he was great on the stuff that WASN'T important.
Is THAT what "Change You Can Believe In" means?
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:39 PM
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20. Like I stated above .......
I feel Obama has compromised or capitulated on every major issue. But it's unfair to say that he hasn't kept any of his campaign promises.

It's fine to be critical, and god knows that I am quite critical of Obama - and highly disappointed - but we also have to be honest.

To answer your question: Is this change I can believe in? No.

I can't stand it when people say "it took Bush 8 years to screw this country up, so why expect Obama to fix it in two years?" That's just an utter boldface lie. It took Bush less than a year to screw this country up. After 9/11, it took Bush a matter of months, and in some cases just a matter of days or weeks, to put in place much of the legislation that has us in the mess we are in today. The following seven years of Bush's term were spent maintaining the status-quo.

Every issue that Obama has capitulated on will not be revisited. That's just a political reality. To say that he hasn't been given enough time to make the big changes is just wishful thinking at best, complete ignorance at worst.
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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:20 PM
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11. Compromise.....
...I believe that compromise is an important and necessary part of governing. However, there comes a time when you have to dig in your heels and say "enough." Compromising with the very people who are determined to have you voted out of office on such a huge issue like extending Bush's disastrous tax cuts for people making over $250,000/yr is a bad idea....it's bad politics AND bad policy (policy because it will only balloon the federal deficit even more--and politics because who do you think will be blamed for that?).

If Obama doesn't start showing some serious backbone really soon, he will not serve a second term. And this country will go to hell in a handbasket come 2013 when the tea-baggers take over.
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AlabamaLibrul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:21 PM
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12. :)
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:23 PM
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13. Obama is a bad man!!1! n/t
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:33 PM
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18. He pardoned a turkey at Thanksgiving time.
Both years!!!
Will have to keep an eye on him to see if he will do that in 2011, though.
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:36 PM
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19. "you all will have to settle on a chicken this year"
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 11:45 PM
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24. Nope .... and ongoing assault on public education, teachers and their union ...
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 11:48 PM
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25. Bashing his base? nt
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 11:49 PM
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26. STEM. CELL. RESEARCH.
For which I am profoundly thankful.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 12:14 AM
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27. Hanukkah.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 12:40 AM
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28. Is there (much) of anything
that has never been changed or altered ("compromised" or "sold out") in any way via the legislative process? Lest we forget that, even with a strong number of Democrats back then (massive supermajorities in both Houses in FDR's case), major social programs like Medicare and Social Security (as passed) were initially much weaker, covered fewer people, and were unrecognizable in their present form.
Progressives were upset with Clinton when he had to "compromised" with the Gingrich-led Congress to get anything done during the last six years of his Presidency. Right now Obama is POTUS so I guess we're all supposed to hate him for him having to do the same thing. Having a Grayson-like POTUS beating up on Republicans day in and day out might be fun to watch and it would, of course, make for some entertaining theater but it doesn't actually get anything done and if nothing's getting done, well then, what's the point? :shrug:
Most politicians realize that, grandstanding aside, they have to live in the real world like the rest of us and have to deal with the reality of how bills become laws.

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VMI Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 01:23 AM
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30. The sanctity of heterosexual marriage.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 01:57 AM
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31. BINGO!!!
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 03:07 AM
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32. His deal with the big corporatists
he's kept that. x(
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 05:19 PM
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36. Lots.
He didn't compromise on tax cuts, he got exactly what he wanted. He didn't compromise on health insurance reform by pulling the public option out at the start, he got exactly what he wanted. The continuing implication that Obama is "caving" to conservatives is fantasy. Obama is a conservative, and he is complicit with the GOP agenda. Nothing else makes sense unless you are willing to conclude that Obama is decidedly more naive and inept than Sarah Palin.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 05:22 PM
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39. Unrec'd whining
Dealing with Congress means no President's promises can be anything but his intent.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 08:30 PM
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41. He hasn't compromised on anything
Compromise implies that both sides abandon part of their objective in order to reach a common middle ground. The Republicans have compromised on NOTHING; ergo, Obama is not compromising. He's giving away the keys to the kingdom no questions asked.
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Moondog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 08:32 PM
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42. Nothing of real consequence.
The biggies, the ones he ran on as far as I am concerned - he's rolled over on every damned one of them.
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