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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 11:30 PM
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An email from my friend's boss, so this is what workplaces are like today....
Edited on Sun Dec-05-10 11:44 PM by HEyHEY
I'm not kidding, this is what they sent....

"You did a really great job in November, involving in different projects here at the office. So, we have not deducted any money from your monthly bonus for the two sick days you took in Nov.

Have a good week."

What a fucking piece of shit. I suppose the prick is expecting a thank you too.

Edit: I should mention the "bonus" is part of your salary. They laud it over your head saying they can deduct it to keep you in line.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 11:32 PM
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1. What the fuck is a bonus?
Anyone else ever hear of such a thing?
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 11:34 PM
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2. He makes a tiny base salary... the other half of his salary is considered "bonus"
Edited on Sun Dec-05-10 11:34 PM by HEyHEY
He gets it every month, so it's part of his actual contract. They basically do it to fuck with your wages to keep you in line.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 11:43 PM
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7. Ah. I've heard of that, and it sucks. Discretionary wages.
I thought it was one of those once-a-year-pittance-if-you-kiss-enough-ass deals.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 11:45 PM
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9. newp... and I can understand it in high paying jobs
But my friend is making about 1,700 USD a month
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 11:35 PM
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It's something Goldman Sachs employees get
when they've driven the company to the brink of oblivion.
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 11:35 PM
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3. Well
if it the policy of the company and the conditions your friend agreed to, that there is a deduction for sick days, it seems his boss just gave him a bonus equivalent to the value of those 2 days, no?
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 11:38 PM
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4. Yeah, but it's still pretty sleazy
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 12:51 AM
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11. How is it sleazier than handing him $100 or what ever?
There is a saying about never looking a gift horse in the mouth. What is sleazy is bitching about a favor someone does out of kindness.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 02:06 AM
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16. Out of kindness??
You think it's kind to pay someone $800 a month garuanteed to work forty hours a week, then telling them the other $800 of their salary is a gift they should be happy to have?
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 09:41 AM
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18. I didn't know we were talking about
the agreement he has with his employer for compensation..he isn't an indentured servant is he? I thought we were talking about an employer who waived the policy of subtracting time when not at work...yes, a favor which the employer apparently is in no way obligated to issue. What do you think the employer would do if he knew the guy was bitching about it? If it were me I would say screw this ingrate, you can bet your ass it would never happen again. How is this not looking a gift horse in the mouth?
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 09:47 PM
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20. Well, the point here is that
Companies are getting around paying full wages with these kind of contracts. Plus, I asked him, he's allowed five sick days a year.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 11:42 PM
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5. Dude, you should delete this
Your friend could get fired if this turns up during a Google search or something.

Honestly. You're putting your friend's job in jeopardy by posting this verbatim.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 11:43 PM
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6. Nah
He's on the other side of the planet.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 11:44 PM
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8. There, changed the wording just enough
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 11:48 PM
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10. Hey man, it's your bud's funeral
Whatever.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 01:12 AM
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12. Not deducting seems like a nice thing (unless sick leave is in the contract, most people don't
get paid for those days), but the whole system is pretty sleazy and I'd certainly try to avoid it.

In this case though, since it it what was agreed to, I probably would say "Thank you" if I was in your friend's position...
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 01:34 AM
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13. Hard to know what to think as there are unanswered questions -
- such as does he have paid sick leave? If so, had he used all of his allotted sick leave for the year requiring that further absences be deducted? Is he full time? Most part time jobs don't have sick leave.

With every job I've ever had that included sick leave, once I had used it then my absence was deducted from my salary.

If his sick leave had been used then - yes - "Thank you" would be the appropriate language to the employer.
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rampart Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 01:46 AM
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14. it is worse than that
"safety" or "attendance" bonuses are usually based on your "team."

if i take a sick day, or report an on job accident, my teammate with the sick wife or child support due doesn't get his bonus either.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 02:08 AM
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17. Unreal.
This job my friend has is not well paid either. He makes about $800 a month for certain... the other $800 is his "bonus" just a scumbag way to get around paying people.
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rampart Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 01:46 AM
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15. it is worse than that
"safety" or "attendance" bonuses are usually based on your "team."

if i take a sick day, or report an on job accident, my teammate with the sick wife or child support due doesn't get his bonus either.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 09:45 AM
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19. Are torches and pitchforks really that bad of and idea?
Are we really better off abandoning this tradition?

Modern day tiki torches often contain a mosquito repellent, that is pretty cool.
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