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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 12:09 PM
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so do i have this right -- the bush tax cuts -- which created no jobs
and can be linked directly to the disasterous economy we all live in now -- are a good thing
and will create jobs -- um - because a dem prez signed off on them?

moderates seem to want to do to 'progressives' and the 'progressive movement' what reagan did to 'liberals'.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 12:12 PM
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1. Yep...That about sums it up n/t
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 12:18 PM
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5. They're on the CLOCK!
Tick tock, tick tock.

Unbridled corporatism works? PROVE IT!

So how will the GOPigs spin the non-job creation even AFTER we give the rich what they want? Still think they'll admit error? Neither do I.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 12:15 PM
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2. The top 2% don't create jobs, but apparently the middle class cuts and credits for the poor
Edited on Tue Dec-07-10 12:17 PM by emulatorloo
do create jobs. Per the Obama advisors -- those people spend the money they get back in taxes on goods and sevices. Which is stimulative, That's the theory anyway, it is not how you characterize it.

So the idea is that economic growth would slow down if middle class and below did not have this money to buy things.

Still sucks though that the top 2% are getting the cut.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 12:17 PM
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3. Sort of. They're better now because they were extended due to 'bi-partisan cooperation'...
...if by using 'bi-partisan' you mean "doing whatever the fuck the republicans tell you to do and then rolling over to have your tummy tickled"...so yes, you are right...
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 12:17 PM
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4. You are correct
We talked about this last night on The H.O.R.N.

Over all the long, tortured, tormented, nightmare years of the DimLeader Administration, these very tax cuts didn't create a SINGLE job. Not.One. DimSon finished his presidency with jobs in negative numbers.

Now, however, we are supposed to believe that the same failed strategy will suddenly work. The emphasis is on the word "believe," the most dangerous word in the English language. It's Tinkerbell Economics, writ large.
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 12:21 PM
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6. Tax cuts for the rich, which are UNPAID for and increase the deficit.
All the while trying to find a way to CUT Soc. Sec.

The loss of revenue with these tax cuts could have paid for SS for the NEXT 100 YEARS!
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 12:23 PM
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7. Yes. DLC/NDC is anti-progressive and pro-neocon.
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 12:57 PM
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13. Amen. The prove it louder and more obnoxiously every move. n/t
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 12:23 PM
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8. Abracadabra! Presto chango! Tax cuts for the rich are now a good thing.
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 12:25 PM
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10. great graphic.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 12:32 PM
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11. ...
:spray:
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 12:23 PM
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9. NO!. The Bush Tax cuts are worth $383 billion
the those under 200/250K

Pull that out of the economy
plus $120 billion in unemployment benefits

=$500 billion king hit
(the Recovery package was only $ 780 billion)

Yes the economy can easily stand +$75 billion on the top 2%

NO THE ECONOMY CAN NOT STAND MINUS 500 BILLION ON 98% OF TAX PAYERS AND THE UNEMPLOYED.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 12:56 PM
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12. Who said they were "moderates"?
They're hardcore Reagan Righties. There's nothing "moderate" about them. They use the term in the same cynical way that they've used "liberal media".
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