Man oh man - Obama is STILL smarting over his drubbing over the failed health-reform bill

[derby378]

Watching the press conference right now - he's still complaining that his inability to secure a public option is being seen as evidence of "weakness" and "compromise." Amazing.

"This country was founded on compromise," he just said. But compromise with who, exactly? When you shake hands with the folks at the bargaining table, do you ever feel the urge to count your fingers afterwards?

[TwilightGardener]

1. I did not know the bill failed. I thought it passed.

[chimpymustgo]

2. Meaningful reform failed. Yes, it did.

Our President is kind of messed up.

[TwilightGardener]

9. Oh, you don't like it. That's different.

[derby378]

15. No, meaningful reform failed...

...and the insurance companies who screwed up health insurance in the first place have been placed firmly in the driver's seat by the new law. Prove me wrong on this.

[TwilightGardener]

19. Most of it hasn't been implemented yet--including the exchange.

I like some of the changes--I think they're meaningful. I can't pronounce it failed until it's fully implemented...and fails.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

5. Failed vis-a-vis the public option

The "founded on compromise" comment seems odd considering that whole War for Independence thingy.

[John Q. Citizen]

20. or considering the whole Civil War thingy.

[Donnachaidh]

3. Damn I wish I still had my garden

I had to wear my hipwaders for that whiny tantrum. Jeez....

[BrklynLiberal]

4. I think that many of us feel that the President has confused compromise with capitulation

One does not hand over everything right up front...
Compromise usually involves negotiations, in good faith, and concessions on BOTH sides...


The Devils Dictionary:
COMPROMISE, n. Such an adjustment of conflicting interests as gives each adversary the satisfaction of thinking he has got what he ought not to have, and is deprived of nothing except what was justly his due.

[Larkspur]

6. This country was founded via a military revolution and a civil war

along with all those wars against Native Americans. It was a compromise over slavery that led to the Civil War. All that compromise did was postpone the inevitable civil war.

Obama's compromise is appeasement to the right wing. How come he wasn't rallying people in Massachusetts and Maine against tax cuts for the wealthy?

[n2doc]

7. This country was founded on revolution

There was compromise between the states, but not with England.

[derby378]

10. Absolutely

"Okay, Your Majesty, we'll sign a peace treaty that allows your navy to continue the blockade of Boston on months whose names include either an e or a y." Hell, no. We fought for our independence and didn't ask permission from anyone, thank you very much.

[Justitia]

8. he called us "purists", dealing in "abstract ideals" - acted like a total dick to the left

bringing up the public option again (and his completely giving it away before it began) and rubbing salt in the wound

Wow, I have never been so pissed (!) at the president.

That was exactly the wrong way to handle this press conference.

I went from being demoralized to enraged!

[kath]

12. Wow - so glad I didn't watch it. I'm already filled with more rage and disgust than I can stand.

[Justitia]

16. his reaction to the Democratic party was shocking, blew me away, honestly. -eom

[CakeGrrl]

14. Gee, he has to deal with known asshole Republicans, and while

dealing with that REALITY, he's constantly told by the Left that he's shit.

Wow, what could be wrong?

Go take your rage and primary him if you think that's gonna solve the problem.

[Justitia]

17. you can stuff that. I've been a steadfast supporter of the prez forever - today is shocking

and I would never be such a dumbass to suggest a primary challenge

What he did today is INEXCUSABLE

[county worker]

11. I didn't see us at the bargaining table.

All this compromise shit is us giving away what we desperately need for something that isn't much different that the status quo. Insurance companies still have us by the ass, Wall street is still trading "products" that only create wealth for themselves, social security and medicare are still in the sights of those who want to pay for the deficit on the backs of the poor.

[Scurrilous]

13. He's a bad man. n/t

[jaxx]

21. What an absurd statement.

[Bluerthanblue]

18. if that is all you took away from it, you weren't listening very closely

or you haven't really thought about what was said.

When Social Security was passed it was for orphans and widows only. That isn't just speculation. It's fact. He has said all along, INCLUDING in the primary that he personally favored universal single payer health care, but that was not a real possibility at this time.

Compromise? compromise with the 50% +- of people who ALSO live in this country, who just voted in a bunch of tea-party candidates and who gave us 8yrs of disaster- THAT is who. This isn't a monarchy or a dictatorship.

:shrug:

[derby378]

22. Guess again

It's compromise with the Republicans in the Beltway who have manipulated the teabaggers to do their bidding. Keep your eye on the ball.

[Laelth]

23. I hope he IS still smarting over our reaction to that disaster.

We would have been better off without the health insurance company enrichment act.

-Laelth