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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 09:56 AM
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4chan knocks MasterCard offline for WikiLeaks cutoff HAHA!

By Rob Pegoraro
I hope you weren't planning on looking for a new credit card or finding an ATM at MasterCard's site this morning. The credit-card firm's Web presence has been largely unreachable for the past few hours after a coordinated attack intended to punish it for refusing to process donations to WikiLeaks.

Reports such as TechCrunch's post indicate the "denial of service" operation was coordinated through 4chan, a free-form message-board site that's been used to arrange numerous other sorts of Web mischief and sabotage, as well as a separate effort called Operation: Payback.

The latter site took responsibility for the MasterCard attack in a tweet earlier this morning.

MasterCard and other payment-processing firms, including PayPal and Visa, cut off WikiLeaks transactions earlier in the week, citing violations of their terms of service. (Earlier today, a PayPal executive told attendees at the LeWeb conference in Paris that the company did so after a request from the State Department.)

People have since complained that these companies' actions amount to a form of government-directed censorship. Journalism professor and media critic Jeff Jarvis grumbled that he could use Visa and MasterCard to contribute to the Ku Klux Klan -- but not to WikiLeaks.

In other news, MasterCard's Wikipedia entry briefly led with a description that doesn't quite meet the crowdsourced encyclopedia's "neutral point of view" requirement:

MasterCard is an evil puppet of the US government, bowing to demand to cease handling WikiLeaks payments due to some vague reference to illegal activity. They are scumbags and should be called up on their actions!
Anybody want to bet on the odds of Visa and PayPal's sites staying intact through the rest of today?

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fasterforward/2010/12/4chan_knocks_mastercard_offlin.html
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 09:59 AM
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1. A gang of cyberterrorists attack and "progressives" cheer
What a pretty thing has come to pass.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 10:01 AM
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4. Otherwise known as fighting fire with fire. nt
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 10:02 AM
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5. Otherwise known as "anarchy"
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 10:04 AM
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7. Sometimes the foundations need a little rocking
That's what keeps the country strong. :patriot:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 01:13 PM
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34. LOL
:eyes:
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 10:05 AM
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8. AKA acts of civil disobedience. We did a lot of those in my day. nt
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:38 AM
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21. I know, I'd much rather have people doing this than rioting.
This is pretty good.
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 12:33 PM
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27. I'd rather have people rioting.
A government is systematically destroying a media organization, seizing it's funds and attempting to have one of its leaders extradited without charge, all without being able to name the specific law that they have broken. The major corporations and Internet services, in turn, have fallen in line and abetted these crimes against freedom by labeling the media organization as a criminal enterprise, again without ever identifying the specific crime they supposedly committed, and without a single warrant being issued against them by any country anywhere on the planet.

Forget the First Amendment. Forget "innocent until proven guilty". We've apparently now moved into the realm where the government and corporatocracy can now seize you and shut your organization down simply because they don't like you. We're now living in a nation where you can be branded a criminal by the government without ever being charged, and your activities can be deemed illegal, even when there are no actual laws against them.

In a sane world, that thought would terrify every American. If this had happened 50 years ago, Washington would have been aflame.

Instead, we act like dutiful sheep and cheer because "Amur'ka is gettin's the terra'rists!" It's fuggin pathetic.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 10:13 AM
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13. You look pale. Have a seat.
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 12:40 PM
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28. This is win.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:37 AM
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20. You mean like the cyberterrorists knocking Wikileaks off the air?
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:44 AM
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24. I'm sure you won't be the only one to cry 'cyber terrorism'. Do you suggest water boarding?
Edited on Wed Dec-08-10 11:45 AM by Matariki
When people in power do something it's called one thing. When those not in power fight back, those in power (and their lackeys) call it 'terrorism'.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 12:46 PM
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31. cyberterrorism is when our govt uses remote controlled drones to bomb sovereign nations
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 10:00 AM
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2. PayPal was hit yesterday
Very bizarre and slow behavior. They are online now.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 10:00 AM
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3. 4Chan is a chaotic, dangerous thing which cannot be controlled. However, if it chooses...
...to control itself in an organized campaign, woe betide those in its tornado's path.

PB
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 10:06 AM
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10. I think you give 4chan too much credit
How has their wrath really effected Gene Simmons, for example? They can send pizzas and gay porn to people and knock a website off the net for a little, then they will get bored and resume trying to send Justin Bieber to Best Korea.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 10:26 AM
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15. On their own they are just as you described. However, there's a loose confederation forming...
Edited on Wed Dec-08-10 10:27 AM by Poll_Blind
....(if confederation is really the best word, which I'm not sure it is) between WikiLeaks, 4Chan, EFF, Slashdot readership and possibly even the guy at Cryptome. It's dawning on these people that they all, in some way, have a vested interest in defending WikiLeaks to some extent.

I don't know how far it will go, but WikiLeaks itself didn't start a movement (IMO), it was the attack on WikiLeaks that started a movement. These things working together or in parallel could cause quite an effect, once magnetically-aligned.

In 4Chan's case, identifying a major credit card company (for instance) as a Scientology-class enemy, and setting up that tribal rivalry could prove a consistent, costly annoyance to them. Relative among events that occur on the internet, this is not "chopped liver".

PB
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 12:22 PM
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26. "Alliance" may be a better word for it
"Rebel alliance" even . . .

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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 12:42 PM
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29. You can't blame them for the Bieber thing.
After all North Korea IS best Korea.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 10:03 AM
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6. K & R nt
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SoCalNative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 10:05 AM
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9. Worthy of repeating
(Earlier today, a PayPal executive told attendees at the LeWeb conference in Paris that the company did so after a request from the State Department.)
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 10:06 AM
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11. Exactly. +1000
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 10:07 AM
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12. Maybe they'll think a little harder about being the SD's lapdog. nt
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 10:14 AM
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14. +10000
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 10:28 AM
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16. +100 MUST BE READ
PB
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kgnu_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:27 AM
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18. PayPal did so after a request from the State Department !
Do you have a link? Because the state department is denying their involvement....
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SoCalNative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 01:11 PM
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33. It's in the article posted
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frustrated_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:35 AM
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19. Not exactly a court order.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:20 AM
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17. Good! I support the disruption of the Master Card site. nt
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:40 AM
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22. Wikipedia entry has it backwards. The US government is an evil puppet of MasterCard, et al.
Edited on Wed Dec-08-10 11:41 AM by Matariki
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:40 AM
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23. Ha ha ha. Take the fight to the enemy.
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:45 AM
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25. Ok, that last paragraph about MC's wikipedia entry was pretty funny
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 12:46 PM
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30. People who think this is OK have zero credibility
in my eyes.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 12:51 PM
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32. +1
Edited on Wed Dec-08-10 12:52 PM by Cali_Democrat
Mastercard has every right to cut off payments to organizations that use their services. Nothing illegal about that.

Hacking, on the other hand, is 100% ILLEGAL.

Whatever happened to the rule of law?

This place makes me more sad every day.
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NuclearDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 02:01 PM
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35. DDoSing isn't hacking
And MasterCard also has the right to reap the wind when they cave to political pressure and cut off donations to a legitimate organization just because the State Department wants them to.
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