Should President Barack H. Obama be primaried? Absolutely Not!

[onpatrol98]

Some progressives in the media are getting more vocal about a possible primary challenge. I think this would be disastrous. I believe this would splinter the Democrat party and generally cause more harm and no good. I think it would simply send a weaker President into a general election campaign.

I continue to believe that President Obama does speak for the majority of Democrats. Republicans have allowed a small but vocal minority in their party to shape their agenda. I think in the long term this will be disastrous for them in the future. But, that's hardly my concern. I believe our president, President Obama has decided that a small, but vocal contingency in the Democratic party should not be in charge of it.

I say small, but vocal because I believe if the majority of Democrats were making as much racket as we're making on DU, surely he would have to recognize that he has a problem with his base. But, he doesn't. So, apparently, we aren't the majority of opinion within the party, but the minority. Either that, or the man would have to be deaf. And, he doesn't strike me as totally oblivious to the anger from some Democrats.

I believe President Obama still holds a lot of positive, good will from the majority of Democrats and the American people. And, I believe he could easily beat any republican challenger offered at the moment. In addition, I think his second term would be more productive than his first. As for challengers, it's always been my opinion that you need a strong base + independents. But, I could be wrong. If I'm right, I can't really think of any other political challenger that could defeat President Obama in a primary race.

I don't believe independents would support Sanders, Dean, Kucinich, or Franken. Perhaps I'm just not seeing a strong and reasonable alternative that could get the votes. Some mention Feingold, but would he really run against President Obama. He wouldn't get my vote if he did and I wouldn't respect him anymore if he tried. Howard Dean could have at one point. But, I also don't believe he'd run against a sitting democrat president.

Am I frustrated with some of the decisions the President has made. Absolutely. Am I frustrated enough to split up my party? No. I didn't like the health care plan and I don't like this possible tax plan. But, because of the health care plan, more will be covered....if they can afford it and more kids will be covered. I don't like the possible tax plan, but if it passes, middle class folk will be able to keep the same rates and won't see an increase in taxes. Some rich folks will be able to keep more of their money, and I'm not impressed with that. But, I guess it is their money after all.

I think the President is trying. I haven't given up.

[old mark]

1. Rec. AI believe it would be a huge mistake to primary Mr. Obama, and I hope

no one is stupid enough to try it. I really DO NOT WANT a GOP President again. I have high hopes for Mr. Obama, which he has not lived up to, but I can't take another Bush - or worse - for 8 more years. I don't think the USA could take it, either...


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[mitchtv]

18. you're gonna get a Repub anyway

so we might as well have a candidate from the Democratic wing.

[Angry Dragon]

2. The democrats are making noise

It seems to me that this president does not listen to them and then
turns around and tells them they just do understand.

So who do I yell at??
Is he going to listen or is he going to blame me again
because I have the nerve to question him??

[MrTriumph]

3. Yes, not only primaried, but replaced at the top of the ticket

Look for more than one challenger.

[Andy823]

8. So tell me who!

Who is going to run against him? Do you have some names of anyone who has said they would take him on?

It would be very dumb to run against him. He has done more in two years than most presidents do in 8, and a hell of lot more than Bush did in his 8 years of destroying the country. Do you think any other person that ran in 2008 could have done better at getting what he got done? I sure don't!

The left is playing into the hans of the right wing smear machine. The right would love to see someone run against Obama and they are having a ball seeing the democrats so divided. They know they are going to have a civil war with the Palin clowns, and now they have been able to get the left all worked up so the democrats will also have a "divided" party. The trolls have been coming here form a long time doing their best to tear down the president, and sadly a lot of DU posters have joined them!

All I can say is that no democrat in their right mind will run against Obama. Sure you may get some of those who "always" run, and some of the blue dogs, but no one person will have a chance, all they will do is tear the party apart and allow some dumb ass republican to take the WH, and in probably allow the republicans to take over the senate. Is that what you really want, the republicans back in the WH and in charge of both houses of congress?

[MrTriumph]

26. As the last pres. primaries showed, Dem.s have a "deep bench".

Get real. We have at least a dozen very able Democrats. Stop the Obama worship.

[Andy823]

28. You still didn't tell me who!

Tell me which democrats is going to run against him! I don't care if their are a hundred able democrats, who is going to run against him! Give me a name!

I don't "worship" anyone, but I don't "hate" our president either. As I already have posted over and over, I wish there was a way to stop the tax cuts for the rich, but since republicans are holding the unemployed and the middle class hostage and refuse to vote for any extensions, tax cuts for ONLY the rich, not START treaty, or any thing else, I can see why the president made this choice, can't you? What do you suggest we do about the unemployment extensions? Or what do we about those who can't afford to have an increase in their taxes?

It's not like Obama didn't get "ANYTHING" at all in the compromise, and if the senate can get even more changes, it could end up being something even you could agree with. But I still think that not one democrat in their right mind is going to take on the president in a primary race. Obama has done more in his first 18 months than most presidents do in two terms. Why should be get rid of him and allow republicans to take back the WH, and most likely the senate?

[MrTriumph]

29. Well, you may have a point. Losing 680 Dem. state legislators and

dozens of Democratic Congresspersons plus a good number of Democratic governors does make our pool smaller.

[sharesunited]

4. Already splintered. Already staying home instead of turning out to vote.

How much worse can it get?

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. Too late...

The party *IS* already splintered... and the "professional left" has had it.

[BlueJac]

6. Yes..........

what is he trying to do, sell the farm? Bury us in debt? Kiss Republican butts?

[leftstreet]

7. Why would anyone in his/her right mind think he's running again?

How can people overlook the signs?

[TreasonousBastard]

9. Name one President who was primaried and the primary challenger won...

in four all cases, the primary challenger lost and the incumbent was so further weakened that the opposition candidate won easily.

What four, you ask?

Johnson (OK, LBJ declined to run-- but look who won.)
Ford
Carter
Bush the First

All were primaried and then the White House changed parties. Do we really want another Republican to finish the job the last one started?

[MrTriumph]

27. Don't use the "Name one...." question. It is bogus.

Every set of circumstances is different.

So here is a reality-check question: Without his base how is Obama going to win?

Answer: HE CAN'T

[TreasonousBastard]

32. Two questions...

First-- just what is his base? He still has high approval rating from Democrats, and others, who apparently don't post on message boards, and who says the whiny little shits who didn't get their Christmas lists wouldn't just stay home no matter who ran.

Second-- Are you really, really willing to bet on the incredibly long odds of a Democratic victory after a primary? In two years when nobody knows what events will shape the future? Obama may or may not have a tough time winning, but whoever is on the ticket has almost no chance after a primary.

[Deep13]

31. They were primaried in part because their fellow partisans...

...knew that their relection was hopeless anyway.

[TreasonousBastard]

33. So, a primary is really a surrender?

[Toucano]

10. It won't make a difference.

If the economy doesn't improve - Obama will not be re-elected whether he's challenged for the nomination or not.

[JustAnotherGen]

11. In Total Agreement

And let's not forget that the Republicans will be blaming what will still be an enormous deficit at that time on the passage of 'The Compromise'. And of course the MSM, Fox, whatever army Dick Armey pulls together will be pushing the Compromise as something the Socialist Kenyan Muslim pushed through and thought up all on his own.

[Toucano]

21. They won't be appeased by anything.

It would be best to do the right thing.

[baldingrockwarlord2]

12. 4 million people will lose their unemployment this xmas due to

this wonderful deal he just made. At least 4 million 99ers and their families will suffer just so that he can try and make "besties" with Boehner,McConnell and the repukes so that they keep their precious tax cuts. I voted for him. I put all of my "hope" in his "change". And now he has the "audacity" to throw my family under the bus.

You bet your ass I want someone to run against him in the primary.

[bowens43]

13. Absolutely.

We can't afford another Obama term

[saracat]

14. Just the fact that you "believe" these things doesn't make them true.

[treestar]

15. Sanders, Dean, Feingold, Kucinich and Franken

All voted with the President on several things, too. These individuals cannot meet the pure as the driven snow standard.

[Ter]

24. Sanders would have to switch first

He's an Independent now.

[EC]

16. We sure know how to weaken our party real quick...

just because we don't get what we want in 2 years we give away the 8 years that could have been...

[Erose999]

20. Our party is weakening us by redistributing our wealth to the rich. They are literally driving us

into debt to give more to the rich.

Meanwhile, the unemployed and the poor are left out in the cold.

[EC]

22. I blame the blue dogs not the whole

party...they do the best they can with what they have...it's the blue dogs that drag us to the right and keep us out of power...they are the weak links...

[Erose999]

17. Obama gave up on me before I gave up on him. Through defending him. Its obvious he's only in it to

further the DLC/GOP agenda. He's working with the Republicans as their scapegoat. They can pass all the laws they want and then put the failure off on Obama. That explains all the "meetings" and "summits" he's been having with them.

As far as health care, I now have a mandate to buy the private coverage I would already have if I could afford it. The plan doesn't really include much that will reduce the costs of the private coverage either.

As for taxes, my share of the tax rate is a greater draw on my resources than Richie Rich's tax rate is on his. Its just not fair that the rich are given so many more breaks than the poor. I want a president that will fight for my share of the economic pie.

I am done settling for less.

As far as a Republican candidate winning in 2012 goes, I'd rather be stabbed in the chest than in the back.

[mitchtv]

19. that's the "Democratic" Party to you

if anyone needed a primary challenge it is this one

[Bluebear]

23. I think the President is trying as well. nt

[ladjf]

25. I think the Dems will lose either way. nt

[Deep13]

30. He's going to lose anyway. nt