Is a DEM President still a Democrat if the deals he makes get more votes from the GOP than DEMS?

[Dawgs]

Poll question: Is a DEM President still a Democrat if the deals he makes get more votes from the GOP than DEMS?

Not taking a shot here; just curious what other DUers think.

[RandomThoughts]

1. The question is why he would support different policies.

Could be he backed down to scorched earth. Could be tactical.

What else might be able to be leaked????


Personally scorched earth is not something I think that should be backed down to.

Just know why and who does it.

[tridim]

2. Obama is, was and will always be a Democrat. Period.

Stop posting this massive pile of bullshit on DU.

[Dawgs]

3. Who said anything about Obama?

:hi:

BTW, I noticed you didn't answer the poll. I wonder why.

[tridim]

6. I didn't answer because it's bullshit.. and bashing.

Not about Obama, my ASS. :rofl:

[Dawgs]

10. Can you explain why it's bullshit?

If a Democratic President continued to ONLY work with the Republican party to get bills that they wanted and the Democrats didn't would you still consider them a Democrat?

I don't care who the fuck it is (Clinton, Obama, FDR, etc).

It seems pretty fair to me.

[Bluerthanblue]

13. you are either lying or ignorant when you say

that Pres. Obama ONLY(your emphasis) works with the Republican party.

You are saying this all over this board, so while you can claim innocence, your actions speak for you.

And you actually have the gall to try and claim this poll ISN'T about Pres. Obama??

Yeah, sure.

I couldn't trust you to determine the "fair"ness of anything given your track record on this issue.

:shrug:

[stray cat]

4. Like the republican Bill Clinton you mean?

[Dawgs]

5. Exactly.

BTW, did you answer the poll question?

[Poll_Blind]

7. Other: The disparity between Candidate Obama and the Obama who gave the press conference a few...

...days ago and who (yesterday, IIRC) had Biden go tell Congressional Democrats that the "deal" Obama made was non-negotiable...I...I have no idea how to classify that.

I have no idea what to make of it. I am a reasonably intelligent, reasonably well-read and reasonably-studied person. I am far from an expert on political matters but neither am I a slouch about it.

I admit now, as I have as-much admitted in the past: I don't even have a frame of reference, either historical or personal, to assign some political taxonomy to the man.

About the closest I ever get, metaphor-wise, is an employee who complains to their fellow co-workers about certain things at work but when they become a manager they comfortably drop into the same cycle of behavior that they were so upset about before promotion. While it "sort of" works, I mean, it's still inadequate a comparison, IMO. At my most pissed at him, I have felt as though he were Wertvolle Juden for the Republicans- but that's emotional vitriol speaking.

I cannot wrap my brain around how close he is to the Republicans and how much he distances himself and shuts down Democrats. Does that make him a Republican? Really, I don't know. I do know this endangers the Democratic party in a big way and it especially endangers liberalism/Left-thinking in our Congress.

:shrug:

PB

[onenote]

8. yes, just as the fact that more Democrats supported Bush's Law of the Sea Treaty than repubs

didn't mean bush wasn't a repub.

[Autumn]

9. As long as he has a D after his name he is still

a Democrat, no matter what shit he passes with the republicans.:shrug:

[Marr]

11. He's a Democrat if he says he is. However,

what the party *is* depends on what the party *does*.

If Obama pushes legislation that's customed-designed for the wealthiest 1%, and the Democrats in Congress let him, then the Democratic Party is the (other) party of the wealthiest 1%. Such a party will have no basis for complaint when their constituents abandon them-- either for a party that addresses middle/working class interests, or for the other party of the wealthiest 1%.

[OHdem10]

12. When a President triangulates, it is expected the opposition will

give him more support.

[Kaleva]

14. A poll question about an event that may or may not happen in the future?

Or are you saying that a Dem President has done this in the past? If so, who was it?