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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 01:53 PM
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House Speaker Pelosi WON'T HOLD FLOOR VOTE On Obama-GOP Tax Deal
" WASHINGTON -- House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) is unlikely to bring up President Obama's tax cut deal to the floor for a vote in its current form in light of the Democratic caucus' rejection of the package Thursday morning, according to a key lawmaker involved in the discussions.


Members, by voice vote, passed a motion to reject the deal as currently written. The motion had been put forward by Reps. Peter DeFazio (D-Ore.) and Lloyd Doggett (D-Tex.) and was seconded, informally, by Reps. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), Marcy Kaptur (D-Ohio) and Jay Inslee (D-Wash.).


"It was a near unanimous vote of the caucus," said DeFazio in an interview with The Huffington Post. "She was there, she heard the arguments, and I don't believe that she is at all resistant to our position. She was not happy with the package as negotiated."


After the vote, Pelosi issued a statement also indicating that the caucus will alter the package. "We will continue discussions with the president and our Democratic and Republican colleagues in the days ahead to improve the proposal before it comes to the House floor for a vote," she said.


DeFazio said that over the past three days of caucus meetings on the issue, lawmakers have raised a significant number of concerns on the deal worked out between the White House and congressional Republicans: the estate tax reductions, taxes for the wealthiest Americans, and allowing corporations to write off 100 percent of their expenses without ensuring that the products they buy are made in America.


"What we've done is empower our negotiator, Chris Van Hollen, to go back with a mandate to the White House and say, 'Sorry guys, I know you said take it or leave it, and I know you cut the deal while I was out of the room -- or while I was in a different room -- but it's unacceptable to my caucus,'" said DeFazio.


The way the deal was worked out -- essentially without the direct involvement of House Democrats -- has also been a major point of irritation for lawmakers, who viewed the White House as steamrolling them and giving too much of a platform to Republicans.


DeFazio said that in his opinion, it reflects a larger pattern with the administration. "Starting with the stimulus, where they made a concession to get three Republican votes for $300 billion in tax cuts that didn't put anyone back to work," he said. "Also the continued failures of, in my opinion, of Tim Geithner and Larry Summers in the White House and their economic theories, versus real investment, real jobs, and we want minimum cost, maximum impact in terms of helping people in need and putting people back to work, and we don't think this package reflects that."




<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/09/pelosi-defazio-obama-republican-tax-deal-vote_n_794460.html>
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 01:54 PM
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1. Laying the groundwork for her '12 comeback tour.
Give 'em hell, Nancy!
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 01:57 PM
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4. Even if its political theatre or posturing on her part,
at least she's has the b@lls to call out this administration's arrogance.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:01 PM
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7. If it isn't brought to the floor it can't be voted in by all the Repos and a few Dems
So that power is very real.

Now after the Repos take over they can pass it in the house if they want to. But for now it's DOA.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:07 PM
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12. Yup. nt
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:01 PM
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8. She rolling for high stakes. Go for it Mrs. Speaker Pelosi. I'm
with you. nt
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 01:54 PM
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2. YES!!
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 01:56 PM
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3. Good job Nancy, I apologize for
getting mad at you for a while.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 01:58 PM
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5. Good work, Dems, stay with it! Say no to more Republican obscenities and insanity.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 01:59 PM
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6. Anyone still want to ditch Pelosi from leadership now?
The lady has always had my admiration. She is tough as nails and I, for one am glad she is there.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:03 PM
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9. Go get 'em, Nancy!
She is a force of nature!

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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:04 PM
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10. This bill is crazy-bad politics
Ending the stimulus and UE benefits a year before the tax cuts gives the repubs an overwhelming advantage is 2012. The parts that help Obama (money to ordinary folks, unemployed, etc) end first. The Repubs will have no interest in extending those, and Obama will have nothing to trade for them.

At the very least the dates for tax cut ending and UE benefit extensions should be equalized, preferably to 2013 when the election season is over. If they must be linked.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:05 PM
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11. Thank you Congressman DeFazio. You have never let me down!
:thumbsup:

PB
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:16 PM
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13. How come all of a sudden this is a "Take it or leave it" deal, Mr. President? You negotiate with
hostage takers, now negotiate with your own damn caucus!
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 05:41 PM
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14. That would be the bi-partisan thing to do wouldn't it? nt
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 05:52 PM
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15. Oh, he's got bipartisanship down. It is uni-partisanship he's having trouble with! nt
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 06:26 PM
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19. I was actually thinking of bi-partisanship WITH the Dems. nt
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 05:55 PM
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17. K&R Good job, House Dems.
Keep it up and improve this mess.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 06:06 PM
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18. k&r
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