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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 05:35 PM
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Filibuster....Hope January is a bit more enlightening.
So the Defense Authorization bill is filibustered and with it, the end of the attempts to repeal DADT. Will the Democrats scream bloody murder because the republicans are anti-American and hate the troops? No, of course not. If the Democrats had pulled this stunt, the republicans would be calling the Democrats out and saying the above. It has been done before.
I, for one, hope that in January, when the republicans take over the House, the Democrats filibuster the hell out of everything. In the Senate, more stalemate.
When, oh WHEN, are they going to grow a pair?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 05:44 PM
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1. I don't think they filibuster in the house, since it's majority rule
It needs to END in the senate. With 51-49, people might end up choosing their senators more carefully..
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 05:52 PM
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2. Well I been thinking about that.
Edited on Thu Dec-09-10 05:54 PM by RandomThoughts
When I had the choice to stand up, it was not easy, you get kicked around for years, and the tricks when you do not go along with bad can be really hard, and mean.

I would guess most of them get broken down, and just go along.


They can even use what you know is correct, in a bad world, against you. For instance, they use my desire for justice with compassion to keep me from going out and getting a job.

So in the same way, those that want to do better, might not get involved in politics, and those that do get in trouble when they try to do anything, or think they get in trouble.

So the only way it would work, is to get people in, show them what is real, then they flame out, until enough do that that the problem is corrected, since if they knew they would not ever go into politics, and when they learn, they wont go along with wrong, but will get kicked around a bit.



Basically when a person wants to change the world, they get more and more bad forces trying to stop them with fear and lies and such, and when they try to find some middle road, the only way you can get into politics anyways, then you get hit by both sides, or hit by bad, and sometimes lose some cover from other side, since they might not be able to reach when a person does not do for principle and better reasons.

It is fascinating really. Although they have to work as a collective, they must be agreeing on some things, since nobody has corrected the beer and travel issue. Or they use censorship, or can't see and hear anything.

Does not make sense, except to think that many of them were broken, and that is why it is best to be nice to them. Since it is like most of them would be like if abused children, thinking they are doing right because it is what they know, and when they try to step out, they get kicked around again.


I really think hostage situation is the best explanation, sort of want people to know that, however if people were reading this, then the beer and travel issue would have been corrected.

And if I was on the Internet, there would not be delays when turning off and on music, and delays in keyboard buffering, so I think it is some combination of information control, intimidation, and filtering of people by censorship.

From that, many competing systems that still communicate and less authoritative structures makes more sense.

So transparency is a win in everything. Although perspective has to exist to stop smears out of perspective also.
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