MoveOn supporting House Democrats actions on tax cut deal

[ibegurpard]

Dear MoveOn member,
Breaking News: A short while ago, House Democrats passed a resolution rejecting the Millionaire Tax Bailout as currently written. Speaker Pelosi says, "We will work to improve it before having a floor vote."1

This is a huge breakthrough and a sign of real momentum for progressives. Progressive members of Congress have been saying the phones are ringing off the hook with calls opposing the deal, and a growing number of Democrats are voicing their opposition, calling the deal "grossly unfair" and "fiscally irresponsible."2

The bottom line: This will give President Obama and congressional Democrats leverage in negotiating a better deal for middle class Americans, but it's more important than ever that we keep the pressure on and build on the momentum we have.

So we're launching a final-push strategy to rally behind progressive Democrats like Bernie Sanders who stand up and fight—and urge others to join them. We'll run ads, organize press events, and make sure the phones keep ringing on Capitol Hill day and night.

But to keep the pressure on, we need a last-minute influx of resources. We're aiming to raise $225,000 today—can you chip in $5? Click here to donate:

https://pol.moveon.org/donate/pushfinal.html?bg_id=hpc5&id=25431-3007982-xg59AKx&t=3

First time I've donated to them for quite a while. I wish they'd been this active against the horrid compromise on healthcare.

[Creative]

1. Obama has already shaken hands on this deal.

What do they expect him to do, go back on his word?

[ibegurpard]

3. this isn't pressure aimed at Obama...we KNOW he's going to sell out

this is aimed at congress

[bigtree]

5. no deal the President makes is binding on Congress

They're free to do what they want on this. They've been free to do what they want on this since last year.

[Abq_Sarah]

9. Perhaps now they realize

They work for us, not the White House?

[DJ13]

7. As the President's defenders said when the public option was dropped from HCR

The President doesnt make law, thats Congress's job.

[Creative]

10. Yes, but if this does't go through, it will surely weaken his position

over the next two years.

Do you think that is a good thing?

[ibegurpard]

11. what position?

he's already proven he's an advocate for Reaganomics.

[Creative]

15. This is all about the Clinton model (moving to the middle) being implemented.

Bear in mind, he will be dealing with a pretty significant GOPer majority during the next session and I believe this House will ultimately give him what he wants. For to do otherwise, would be akin to shooting themselves in the foot.

Then again, you don't have to be that good of a shot to shoot yourself in the foot.

[ibegurpard]

18. If I expected he would be a check on the Republicans

the idea of him powerless would bother me a great deal more than it does.

[Creative]

21. He will be a check on the Republicans--he's setting himself up to be

the voice of sanity (just like Clinton).

[ibegurpard]

31. Clinton was FAR from the voice of sanity

If he'd used his veto pen and political capital we might not have had DOMA, Telecomm dereg, NAFTA, welfare "reform" and a host of other conservative policies enacted.

[Creative]

32. What are you talking about? Clinton vetoed the welfare reform bill twice.

Once he got the changes he sought, he signed it. Subsequently, those who are familiar with the various programs hailed welfare reform as a great success. Similarly, the telecom act updated our telecommunication laws from the '30s, and that too, has been successful. There will always be those that resist change, but progress must come to pass.

Although I tend to favor the concept of free trade, I have been disappointed with the results of NAFTA. The problem is that when everyone hangs their own special little paragraphs on the these agreements, those without a paragraph get screwed.

Free trade deals should only include a simple agreement between the nations themselves. It should protect the security interests of each nation, etc. Beyond that, it should be up to those doing the trading to work out their own agreements.

As far as DOMA goes, that is where the nation was at that time. In case you haven't noticed, times are a changin'.

[girl gone mad]

19. Taking into consideration what his position has been so far,

YES, it's a good thing.

[Creative]

22. So, you favor a weak Democrat president and a strong GOP House?

[w4rma]

20. Yes. If this is his position, then it needs to be weakened. (nt)

[Creative]

23. Okay...

:eyes:

[DJ13]

24. it will surely weaken his position

It cant be any weaker than it is without electing a Republican for President.

[Creative]

25. ...and they said that Clinton was "irrelevant" after the '94 midterms...

Subsequently...

[DJ13]

26. He WAS irrelevant

...to his own party.

He passed Republican programs that even Reagan was afraid to try.

[Creative]

27. "That Reagan was afraid to try." Are you suggesting that things would have been better

with a Republican in the White House?

I don't know about you, but did VERY well during the Clinton years.

[DJ13]

29. No, Im saying there wasnt much difference between Clinton's policies

and those of moderate Republicans, which made him pretty irrelevant to his own party.

Financial deregulation, ending Welfare, telecom deregulation, MFN trading status with China (and supporting them joining the WTO) which led to the increased outsourcing we suffered throughout the last 10 years, NAFTA, and a host of other conservative wet dreams that were the signature policies from the GOP platform at the time.

[Le Taz Hot]

33. Why not?

He had no problem going back on his word with those who elected him.\

Edit: Speeling.

[Blecht]

2. Since when is Bernie Sanders a Democrat?

Nice letter they sent out, but that's a big boo-boo.

[BrklynLiberal]

14. Good catch!!!!!!!!!!

[WillyT]

16. Bernie Sanders Is Better Democrat Than Many Democrats

:shrug:

[bigtree]

4. posturing

How different will their compromise be from the President's, and, why did they wait until now to organize one?

[ibegurpard]

6. maybe they were as shocked by the President's sellout as many congressional Democrats?

:shrug:

[bigtree]

12. all year they were shocked?

. . . why are they shifting focus off of the ones who make and pass the laws? That's where what they want comes from, not the White House.

[Drale]

8. If they change it and take out the tax cuts for the rich

and it passes both the house and the senate, I guarantee Obama signs it.

[BrklynLiberal]

13. Yes..Some organization..Some pressure from the "Crazy Leftists"...

one of which I am very proud to be..

[WillyT]

17. K & R !!!

:kick:

[bigwillq]

28. K and R

:bounce:

[ibegurpard]

30. kick