I need to rant

[whirlygigspin]

am I the only one here that's still depressed that Biden is out of the race?

--don't get me wrong here, it's not about Joe, you know what I mean?

Hillary never met a republican she didn't like--Obama wants to be loved by republicans :puke:
(not to mention his anti-gay penchant)

and Edwards still feels like he's selling hocum (I can't shake the feeling)

PLUS New Hamphire showed yet again that the voting system can be rigged so easily

it's just depressing

I haven't been posting at all lately

[gateley]

1. I'm really depressed, too.

When I try to find something positive about any of the other candidates, I glomp on to that in an attempt to be supportive. It lasts around 5 minutes or so. There is just NOBODY.

I don't trust any of the others. I don't believe in any of the others. I have fears about all of them.

Even if a Dem gets into the White House, I'll be glad that the R's are out, but I won't feel GOOD about WHOEVER the new Prez is. I won't have the hope and optimism I would if Joe had made it. It just won't feel RIGHT.

[Steely_Dan]

2. I Keep...

thinking about the missed opportunity to have Biden in the WH. It's like history will not be the same. This was a rare and unique opportunity. We will not pass this way again.

-Paige

[Eurobabe]

3. Iowa and New Hampshire need to go

I just heard on Tweety's show (Hardball) that if Clinton is the nominee, we can thank New Hampshire for vaulting her to frontrunner status. :mad: :mad: :grr:

[elleng]

4. 48%

I don't think it matters at all; I think that the corps would see to it that we 'get' their preferred in any event.

As messed up as Iowa + NH were, I like the chance to have the ability to watch the candidates for a while, kind of 'up close and personal,' and that won't happen any other way.

[Eurobabe]

5. All candidates should get 2 months of free media coverage

3-6 months before the conventions, and that's it. This is what they do in Germany (give free media to make it fair for all).

Ellen, I don't know what the answers are, honestly -- but the media has way too much influence and power in our elections, that --we can all agree upon. :grr: :grr:

[elleng]

6. Absolutely, 48%

I support entirely publicly financed presidential elections; this should include some amount of free media coverage. Without something like this, we're all down the drain.

[Eurobabe]

7. Did you watch Bill Maher last Friday? That smacked-ass Matt Taibbi

he wrote a hit piece on Wes Clark in 2003 (http://www.thenation.com/doc/20031215/taibbi) that had little or nothing to do with the substance of Clark's campaign. Anyhow I digress, Taibbi now works for the Rolling Stone and during his stint on Maher's show, he described in detail how the political reporters/pundits are a bunch of elites that get a kick out of marginalizing and trashing the candidates. Like a bunch of teenagers on steroids, THEY choose who should be annointed, and it happens. It makes me absolutely sick how much power and influence these creeps have - I see no solution.

Taibbi (who I hate for obvious reasons as a former Clark supporter) acted like a spoiled little whiney bee-yatch bragging to Tony Snow about how they (pundits/journalists) stay at the best hotels, fly first class, live the grand life during the primaries, etc, all the while in pursuit of destroying Democracy (my conclusion, my words, not his). It's a big JOKE to these people, for their own enjoyment. Like they get off on it.

We should round them up and burn them at the stake, IMHO. Sniveling asswipes.

:rant:

[elleng]

8. No, didn't see Maher.

Did see the old 'nation,' and have hated the jerk and whatshername ever since. AND nation had that cover, with Wes in green face, as promo forever; may still run it.

The reporters/pundits have the power as the mouth pieces, but its their bosses, BIG corps, who encourage them.

[Eurobabe]

9. tis true

Corporations control the USA. Sadly.

[murbley40]

11. Election reform should be..

the way we continue the "good fight" and maybe the next time a "Joe", if ever, comes along he will have a fighting chance. That could be our ultimate contribution. I have no idea how to do this but am willing to help and be part of it.

[livvy]

10. You are not alone.

I can't warm up to any of the candidates. I have tried. I'll have a brief thought about one, and then I rethink it, and I'm back to no choice again.

I don't think that any of these candidates can get the job done. I see only more fighting between parties, nothing getting done, either nationally or internationally, and our Constitution remaining in shreds along with our rights.

I have this really bad feeling about McCain. He is the GOP candidate of choice. He sealed the deal with a blissful hug several years ago. I see a lot of central Dems and Ind jumping on the McCain wagon due to this ugly fighting between Clinton and Obama. If he is crowned, nothing, and I mean nothing will change. We will have at least 4 more years of this nightmare, and it could be even worse.

Our election system is a mess. There are so many ways to rig the results. I don't know if We the People really have any voice at all.

So, yeah, I'm real depressed about the whole mess. I refuse to give up trying, will support the Dem candidate chosen by whomever really does the choosing, and continue the fight for the Constitution and We the People when the election, if we even have one, is over.

I had really hoped I could relax my political vigil a bit after the lying weasel et al was gone, but with Biden out of the race (and Dodd, too), that's not going to happen. No matter which of these candidates takes the throne next year, Rep or Dem, We the People are going to have to be on our toes. Some will need a closer watch than others.

Wish I could be more cheery, but, that's how I see it, and it's not a pretty picture.

[AspenRose]

12. I'm better this week

but still dejected.

Don't people understand that this isn't an episode of SURVIVOR we're talking about? :banghead:

[PatSeg]

13. As you can see you are not alone

Pretty much everyone I know is pretty depressed, but some are less vocal than others.

I have serious problems with the remaining candidates, but anyone of them is better than a republican. I just cannot get enthusiastic about any of them after following Joe's campaign. Now it has become politics as usual. I will probably vote for Joe in my primary, feeble gesture that it is.

[jillan]

14. Count me in the depressed group.

I like Clinton the best, but then I come to my senses.

What worries me the most, is that I don't think any of them can win the GE if the R's pick McCain.
And if we don't win the WH this time, I will dig myself a hole and never come out.

It is such a shame.

[ginchinchili]

21. Ouch! You sound like me. President McCain...sounds too much like

President Insane. Why do Americans continue to insist on screwing themselves? I'm going to hate this election season. I already do.

[stlsaxman]

15. yeah i'm right there with you, wgs...

"Edwards still selling hokum" lol

no. i'm depressed and bored by politics now. good thing i have music. and work. and friends. what else... i dunno.... hmmm

i feel the same way i did when Morning Sedition with Marc Maron was taken off Air America Radio. a biiiiiig hole in my life.

that's why i come here- people understand how i feel.

thanks for the post, whirlygigspin

[Carla4Biden]

16. I'm with you

Biden is still my only choice. I have no enthusiasm for any of the other candidates either.

Campaign reform needs to have a few big names and someone in the media that people respect to take up the torch. Surely there has to be one individual in the media who has enough integrity to take this on.

Personally, I think the 2nd tier candidates from both parties and their supporters should band together and make enough noise that the issue can no longer be ignored. A grassroots push across the nation. Lou Dobbs was able to push the illegal alien issue by doggedly pursuing the topic daily on his show. In my opinion, that is one of the main reasons why it is being discussed.

We need to have someone with exposure to do the same with campaign reform which includes campaign finance, the role of the media and how the primaries are ran. I am not ready to give up yet. It is time that money and corporate America is taken out of the picture and this country is handed back to the citizens.

My question is how do we get the ball rolling?

[PatSeg]

17. I'm really not sure right now

A trip to GDP indicates that it may be hard to find people willing to take it on. There's an awful lot of sheep out there.

[whirlygigspin]

18. I could have said 'bunkum' as he is from NC

but hocum is good too

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hokum

[CrispyQ]

19. Whirly, I haven't been posting either.

I am so uninspired by the top three - there isn't one that I want to vote for. I do think that either of the top three won't be as toxic as any of the repubs & that alone will get me to the polls in November. But I am so sick of voting against someone instead of for someone. And I feel that my party is abadoning true democratic principles more & more with every election. I will be surprised if I vote at all after '08.

[ginchinchili]

20. You're not alone. I feel the same way.

I've even gone over to the Democratic Party website and ranted a couple of times. I'm surprised they haven't banned me. They may after the one I just left. OH well.

Part of the depressing aspect of this is that we still have almost 10 months left of this crap, and we haven't begun to see the worst of it! During the last election Kerry was running neck and neck with Bush. I'm so afraid that we won't even have that to hold on to. I depends a lot on how the Republican runs his campaign. Remember, Americans--Democrats and Republicans alike--are ridiculously impressionable. This election should be no contest, but the Democrats have decided to make it one, and may end up giving the Republicans 4 more years in the White House.