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magbana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 08:34 PM
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VEN Amb-OAS Says Cuba Can't Be Ignored at Summit-Demands FINAL review of Declaration doc
It was Nicaragua earlier today, now Venezuela. Chavez was smart to put together an ALBA conference in VEN on April 14, just 3 days before the Summit meeting. I think Obama is going to run into a "normalize relations with Cuba" tidal wave at the Summit. After the Summit, the gusanos will look like little lambs to Obama. All as it should be.
magbana

"Venezuela Requests Review the Final Declaration of the Summit of the Americas

The Venezuelan ambassador to the OAS requested a review of the draft since he considers it avoids issues relating to the serious historical conditions faced by mankind today

By: Agnerys Rodríguez Gavilán, special correspondant

Email: digital@jrebelde.cip.cu
2009-04-08 | 15:25:20 EST
Photo: GoogleZoom

VENEZUELA . — Venezuelan Ambassador to the Organization of American States (OAS) Roy Chaderton Matos said on Monday in Washington that the Cuba subject can not be avoided during the Fifth Summit of the Americas. On behalf of his country, Chaderton Matos requested a review of the Final Declaration draft of that forum, saying that it avoids “items related to the serious historical conditions that are today faced by mankind.”

“It would be inconceivable that in a meeting of intelligent men and women we pretend to ignore the subject of Cuba. This is exactly what some people intend to do. There are some who would feel more comfortable if we did not talk about Cuba...Cuba is an uncomfortable issue for the conservative sectors of the continent... for the truly progressive sectors of the continent it would be very uncomfortable not to talk about Cuba, apart from being a great irresponsibility,” said Chaderton Matos

Chaderton Matos said that several countries intend to discuss the subject during the Summit of the Americas to take place from April 17 to 19 in Trinidad and Tobago. He added that there should be a final review of the Final Declaration by the corresponding highest representation, before the summit and if necessary during the summit.

He said that the summit cannot ignore the serious historical conditions faced by mankind today that have so far not been properly addressed by the international community in previous meetings of Heads of State and Government.

Venezuela’s nonconformity with the Final Declaration draft was expressed during a meeting held on Monday in Washington by representatives of 34 countries that will participate in the upcoming Summit of the Americas hosted by the OAS."
http://www.juventudrebelde.co.cu/international/2009-04-08/venezuela-requests-review-the-final-declaration-of-the-summit-of-the-americas/
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 08:42 PM
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1. So far, Nicaragua and Venezuela. Any indications who else?
Andale, mi gente!

:woohoo:
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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 12:00 AM
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2. Add Bolivia to the list that will probably grow


But the OAS, organizer of the T. & T. summit, is saying NO to any inclusion of any mention of Cuba in the final draft. This may turn out to be the most entertaining summit ever in the hemisphere. :bounce:


EVO

Evo Morales today said he planned to present ALBA with a resolution that the U.S. "immediately halt" the blockade of Cuba. He is looking for a common front for the T&T conference.

Morales said that 186 nations support Cuba, while only the United States, Israel, and "a little island" are against lifting the blockade.


(Spanish) http://www.telesurtv.net/noticias/secciones/nota/46984-NN/morales-prepara-resolucion-para-pedir-fin-del-bloqueo-a-cuba/

OAS

On Tuesday, Insulza rejected the possibility of approval of any resolution regarding Cuba at the Summit of the Americas. The issue is not on the agenda of the conference.

Insulza admitted, however, that some presidents would refer to Cuba at the summit "but it will not go any further than that."

(Spanish) http://www.telesurtv.net/noticias/secciones/nota/46880-NN/oea-descarta-resolucion-sobre-cuba-en-cumbre-de-las-americas/

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 12:15 AM
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3. EVO! This is going to be an exciting month.
:)
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 06:07 AM
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4. +Good for this Venezuelan ambassador. This OAS meeting is going to be memorable.
Hanging over the event will be the complete awareness all of Latin America can live WITHOUT the OAS now, if necessary, in the age of postponed, and long anticipated solidarity, the time in which the divide-and-conquer tactics of the bully have finally failed.

It should be interesting seeing what kind of prizes are offered to various countries next: we've already seen our President claim Lula is the most popular President in the World. I truly hope he's not deliberately trying to separate Lula from the rest of the leftists through flattery, and appealing to Lula with gifts, deals, inducements, and trying to ease him away from the growing unity of the South America countries.

Lula as EVERYTHING in common with the new leaders, and very little in common with a country which supported the military dictatorship which tortured Lula's own brother in prison.

Here's a photo of the Veneuzuelan ambassador to the OAS.

http://www.radiomundial.com.ve.nyud.net:8090/yvke/files/img_noticia/t_chaderton_151.jpg
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 07:17 AM
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5. I don't understand how Insulza can dictate to all these heads of state what they
will talk about and what they will resolve. If this is a democratic meeting--and I have to presume that it is--then any one of them can introduce a topic, or a resolution, for the group of presidents to consider. These are presidents. They are not mere diplomats. They hold the sovereign reins of government in their countries, and nobody outside of their country can dictate to them what they will say or do--not Insulza, not Obama, no one.

Just imagine the Sec General of the UN telling Obama what he can say, what resolutions he can introduce, or how to vote at the UN. The Sec General wouldn't even do that to a mere diplomat. To a head of state, it would be unthinkable. Advice, maybe yes--informal advice. Dictation, no.

But since opinion about the U.S. lifting the embargo on Cuba is so overwhelming in Latin America, possibly Insulza is playing a political game here. He is saying this (Cuba is not on the agenda) at Obama's request, maybe? To please and to accommodate the new U.S. head of state, which has exercised untoward power at the OAS in the past? BUT, he expects it to come up, and perhaps wants it to come up--just not from him. And, at that point, he can't do anything about it. Presidents of countries will do what they please.

The Cuba issue is more than the Cuba issue--much more. It is a basic issue of sovereignty for all these countries, that the U.S. has been dictating policy on Cuba for many decades. And most of them have finally stood up for themselves and their country's sovereignty and opened their own relations with Cuba, as has much of the world. It is totally, totally absurd that the U.S. has normal diplomatic and trade relations with China--a far worse dictatorship than Cuba, if Cuba can be called a dictatorship at all--and yet shuns and punishes Cuba, as if it were a pariah like North Korea. (I think Cuba is more like a benign monarchy--and quite a bit like England--with democracy at every level except head of state, who reins by common, informal consent but not be voting.)

In any case, whether or not the U.S. gets to dictate what will be talked about by the presidents of all of these countries will be interesting to see. It may be that Latin America needs to abandon the OAS, as it had to when the U.S./Colombia bombed/raided Ecuadoran territory last March (2008). They took that near war, and big controversy, to the all-Latin American Rio Group, specifically because the U.S. is not a member and could not obstruct the discussion. And, when the U.S. (Bushwhacks) tried to start a civil war in Bolivia, in September 2008, the newly formed South American common market, UNASUR (the U.S. is not a member, but Cuba is) acted quickly, decisively and unanimously to back the Evo Morales government.

Obama is going to have a hard time explaining his policy on Cuba to these very popular, very assertive and very much allied leftist leaders--the great majority--especially when even the few remaining centrist and even rightwing leaders recognize Cuba. Obama's policy is irrational. It has no good explanation. And U.S. diplomats and State Dept. spokespersons just babble when they are asked about it. They have nothing coherent to say.

A word about this biofuels thing with Lulu. You should read what Food First has to say about biofuels replacing food production! It is by no means a "green" policy, as the U.S. State Dept. spokesman said the other day, in repeatedly citing the Bushwhack deal with Lulu on biofuels as the "new" green cooperation with Latin America--the only example he could think of. For Lulu, it is a political/economic issue. He has fought hard at the WTO in defense of third world countries, on unfair U.S. ag and other imports policy. He wants Brazil to be able to import ag products to the U.S. And he made a bad decision. The Bushwhack biolfuels deal will encroach on the Amazon, and it is adamantly opposed by indigenous organic food farmers and environmental groups. It is crazy to convert farmlands to biofuels in a world facing mass starvation from food shortages, and crazy to threaten forests in a world facing the END of the planet's ecosystem from global warming. Short-term thinking by Lulu.

Lulu, however, never did allow this issue to succeed in "dividing and conquering" the South American left--as seemed like a possibility at the time. He made the deal with the Bushwhacks. But he did not bow to Bushwhack pressure on "isolating" Chavez, for instance--in fact, he strengthened his ties to Chavez and to the South American left. He has been a solid backer of Chavez, Morales, Correa, Kirchner and others.

I found it very curious that the Obama spokesman kept citing this deal. For one thing, it's old news. For another, it was a Bushwhack project, not an Obama initiative. What are going to be Obama's initiatives? I don't have a single solitary clue. "Free trade" with Colombia? Right. More "war on drugs"? Uh-huh. As Inca Kola has just shown, Bolivia has never done more drug interdictions than AFTER they threw the DEA out of Bolivia.* The U.S. "war on drugs" is a corrupt, failed, murderous scam, to militarize Latin America, and spy on and interfere with Latin America. And that's all I've picked up--warmed over Bushwhack ideas. And those are not likely to endear Obama to the new leftist leadership of Latin America. Plus, he's wrong on Cuba.

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*(http://www.borev.net/2009/04/titulares_asininity_35.html
http://incakolanews.blogspot.com/2009/04/evos-bolivia-is-combatting-narcos.html )

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 03:11 AM
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6. At bottom, Obama can't claim Chavez exports terror while he himself
takes CANF money without making himself look ridiculous to the rest of the hemisphere. He can't criticize human rights in Cuba while he himself refuses to prosecute the Torture administration without being embarrassingly hypocritical.

I don't think Cuba is about Cuba at all for Democratic politicians. It's just code for a system of patronage that is deeply corrupt. They're going to have to reinvent politicking in Florida, and pronto.
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