I'm looking for the poll our friend Andres is using in this article:

[EFerrari]

Obama most popular leader of the Americas
BY ANDRES OPPENHEIMER

PORT OF SPAIN, Trinidad -- -- What a difference! At the last 34-country Summit of the Americas in 2005, former President George W. Bush was received as Public Enemy Numero Uno. On Thursday, when President Obama arrived here for the hemispheric gathering, he got a hero's welcome.

Obama is immensely popular in Trinidad and Tobago. Every person I talked to here seemed excited about the U.S. president's visit, despite generalized skepticism about the summit.

Street vendors are selling Obama T-shirts, and the Daily Express, this country's biggest daily, topped its front page with a picture of the U.S. president and a box reading, ''Free poster inside.'' There was ''tremendous demand'' for the poster, an Express circulation manager said.

''There is a sea-change in Latin America's attitude toward American leadership,'' says Richard Feinberg, a former Clinton White House official who organized the first Summit of the Americas in Miami in 1994. ``From reactions of distrust and disdain, we have gone to high expectations and warm embrace.''

Indeed, it's not just Trinidad. A Latin America-wide survey released Thursday by the CIMA polling group, entitled Ibero-American Barometer 2009, shows that Obama is the most popular leader of the Americas -- by far.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/columnists/andres-oppenheimer/story/1005568.html

Only the Herald seems to have the story and I can't find the actual poll anywhere. :blush:

[Bacchus39]

1. let us know when you find it; here are the numbers from the story

Obama has a 70 percent approval rate in the region, followed by Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva with 59 percent, according to the poll of 10,000 people in 22 Latin American and Caribbean countries. By comparison, Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez got a 28 percent approval rate in the region, the poll shows.

[romy]

2. Very interesting

I haven't found the actual poll but here's more mention of it
http://ecodiario.eleconomista.es/internacional/noticias/1174249/04/09/Iberoamerica-Obama-es-el-dirigente-mas-popular-entre-los-latinoamericanos-seguido-de-Lula-el-Rey-y-Zapatero.html

[romy]

3. Only previous versions

http://www.cimaiberoamerica.com/

[EFerrari]

4. Welcome to DU, romy. That's what I find too at the moment. n/t

[Bacchus39]

5. in regards to the poor results obtained by Chavez,.......

...Gamarra attributed that to the presumed intervention of the Venezuelan leader in internal issues of other countries.


En cuanto a los malos resultados obtenidos por Chávez, Gamarra los atribuyó a "la presunta intervención" del mandatario venezolano "en los asuntos internos de otros países".

[Judi Lynn]

6. The polling company is Colombian. Surprise, right? Ha ha, hmmm.

Here's an article translated from El Tiempo in Bogota:

The big three: According to a survey conducted by Colombia's Ibero-American Consortium
of Colombia, U.S. President Barack Obama, Colombian President Álvaro Uribe and Brazil
President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva are the most popular leaders in Latin America. But
oddly enough, no mention is made of Venezuela President Hugo Chavez, who is also
rumored to be among the hemisphere's most popular leaders.

El Tiempo, Colombia
Survey: Obama 'Most Popular Leader' in the Americas

"U.S. President Barack Obama has been ranked the most popular leader by the Ibero-American Poll of Governance, which was conducted in 20 countries of the Americas. Eighty five percent of Latin American residents in his nation support him. … in all of the countries, newly inaugurated President Obama was the winner again, who had on average 70 percent support."

Translated By Miguel Gutierrez
April 17, 2009

Colombia - El Tiempo - Original Article (Spanish)

The president of the United States, Barack Obama, has been ranked the most popular leader by the Ibero-American Poll of Governance, which was conducted in 20 countries of the Americas.

The poll was conducted by the Ibero-American Consortium and coordinated by the National Consulting Center in Bogota, which has conducted the survey since 1992.

In the case of the President Obama, 85 percent of Latin American residents in his nation support him.

Then there's President Álvaro Uribe, whose management 74 percent of Colombians approve of. This is just a point higher than Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva.

So it is that these three chief executives arrive with the highest ratings at the Fifth Summit of the Americas, being held from Friday to Sunday at Port of Spain, the capital of Trinidad and Tobago. Thirty four of the continents nations are participating. Cuba is not.

Unlike the surveys conducted in previous years, of the twenty leaders people were asked about, twelve had favorability ratings above 50 percent.

"This shows there is confidence in these leaders and that today, there is real leadership in the region," said Carlos Lemoine, president of National Consulting Center, the creator of the survey.

More:
http://worldmeets.us/eltiempo000061.shtml

[Judi Lynn]

7. Sad picture choice, wasn't it? Holy moly. Provincial.

Remember this photo op?

http://www.theatlantic.com.nyud.net:8090/images/issues/200806/comment.jpg

Did you ever visit Knott's Berry Farm? Remember the statues sitting around the place? Very similar.

http://www.godblessamericana.com.nyud.net:8090/images/slide-of-the-week/large//2007/2007-05-18-KNOTT%27S%20BERRY%20FARM.jpg

http://cache.daylife.com.nyud.net:8090/imageserve/04M3aN61Mw8cW/610x.jpg

[EFerrari]

9. LOL! Yes, I went there as a kid. Some cowboy flirted with my mom.

:)

[EFerrari]

8. Thank you, Judi Lynn. I'll have to look at this after some shut eye.

The numbers didn't make sense to me, if you know what I mean.

[Bacchus39]

10. Chavez isn't popular with other latin americans in the region

that's why.

[struggle4progress]

17. I don't think the poll asked that question:

Coluna de Reinaldo Iturriza
Venezuela es el país que menos confía en los medios
... Algunos otros datos dignos de mención:
- Venezuela es el país con la imagen más negativa del Fondo Monetario Internacional (apenas 23% de aprobación, cuando la media latinoamericana es de 40%). ¡Nicaragua! y México son los países con la imagen más positiva: 59%. En Argentina no se consultó sobre el particular.
- En Venezuela se tiene la imagen más negativa de Estados Unidos: sólo 22% de aprobación, siendo la media latinoamericana un 43%. Tienen la imagen más positiva: Puerto Rico (83%), los latinos estadounidenses (79%) y El Salvador junto con República Dominicana (68%). La encuesta no incluye la pregunta que indague sobre la imagen de Venezuela en el resto de América ... http://www.patrialatina.com.br/colunaconteudo.php?idprog=9f53d83ec0691550f7d2507d57f4f5a2&codcolunista=64&cod=931

[Bacchus39]

18. sure it did, go to the 2008 report and look. it talks specifically about the leaders n/t

opinion of countries is different than opinions of leadership.

[struggle4progress]

19. Umm, this thread is about the 2009 version. But the 2008 pdf has been pulled from the CIMA website.

The requested URL /pdf barometros\Barometro Gobernabilidad 2008.zip was not found on this server
http://www.cimaiberoamerica.com/

Unfortunately, the 2008 executive summary and related pages from working links apparently contain no info on methodology.

[EFerrari]

20. Maybe now that such an august personage as Andres

has cited the 2009 version, it will be posted. :)

[Bacchus39]

21. yep that would be my guess, they are going to post the new 2009 version

all you Chavistas are in the minority of Latin American opinion.

[struggle4progress]

22. Maybe Andres got an advance copy of the conclusions before any actual polling was done:

in my more cynical moments, I sometimes suspect a surprising amount of such "research" decides what the conclusions will be before gathering any data

[EFerrari]

23. That would be one way to secure funding.

:)

[Peace Patriot]

11. Can't find out anything about this poll. Very suspicious, I'd say. And I don't trust anything

out of Colombia, where people get their heads shot off, or get dismembered by chainsaws and their body parts thrown into mass graves, for daring to speak in a leftist cause.

The poll does not make a lot of sense. Chavez has a 60% approval rating in Venezuela--and has had that high approval rating for years--so it makes no sense whatever that approval of him would be so much lower (28%) in other Latin American countries, in most of which, by now, the voters have also elected leftists, who are in alliance with, and/or are close friends with, Chavez.

This inconsistency with reality makes the poll suspect to begin with, but the lack of information about the poll or the polling firm on the internet heightens my suspicions.

Then there is its publication in the Miami Herald, and almost nowhere else. The Miami Herald is notoriously rightwing/fascist, anti-Chavez, anti-Morales, anti-any-leftist, and is a slave to the Miami anti-Castro mafia. They publish absolute trash and lies, routinely, on Latin American politics.

Finally, look at how the person whose column it appeared in--Andres Oppenheimer--discusses Bush, Chavez and a prior Summit:

"At the last Summit of the Americas, in Mar del Plata, Argentina, there were huge crowds of demonstrators protesting Bush's visit. Chávez had a field day: He assembled 40,000 adoring fans at a nearby soccer stadium, upstaging the U.S. delegation and grabbing the biggest headlines.

"Bush was publicly scolded by the host country's president, Nestór Kirchner, at the summit's opening ceremony. I remember standing in the audience, close to a senior U.S. official who was shaking his head with a mixture of sadness and disbelief." --Oppenheimer (emphasis added)

He feels injured by Kirchner's criticism of Bush, and goes and buddies up with a Bushwhack official about how "sad" it all is? Christ. This is not a writer to put your trust in, as to citing creditable polls, or anything else. He is a Chavez basher, and a Bush lover, and an advocate of "free trade."

[Bacchus39]

12. Chavez's numbers in Venezuela don't translate to other countries

not sure why this is difficult for you to comprehend. look at the past years and the level of detail of the survey.

[EFerrari]

13. Oppie is trash, agreed. I'm going to see if anything turns up

today. The numbers for Obama may be fine but the ones for Chavez don't pass the smell test.

[Bacchus39]

14. you can look at the report from 2008 until the new one is published

54% approval in Venezuela mirrors exactly the vote on the latest referendum. but once again, most latin americans outside of Venezuela don't like him.

[Bacchus39]

15. from the 2008 report

Liderazgo de los presidentes
Los líderes más influyentes en Latinoamérica son Hugo
Chávez Frías, y George Bush, ambos con un 13%.
Chávez registra más del 50% solo en Venezuela y Bush
no registra más del 50% en ningún país. En un tercer
lugar, con el 5%, se encuentran José Luís Rodríguez
Zapatero, el Rey Juan Carlos, y Luiz Inacio Lula Da Silva.
Fidel Castro tiene un 4%. Su nombre fue incluido dentro
de la lista de líderes de Iberoamérica, ya que si bien ya
no es el presidente de Cuba, aun es un líder importante
en la región.
El 41% de los Latinoamericanos no sabe o no responde
cuando se les pregunta cual es el líder con mayor
influencia en la región.
Al ser entrevistados sobre la simpatía que sienten hacia
diez de los líderes de Iberoamérica, los encuestados
ubicaron en los lugares más altos a Luiz Inacio Lula Da
Silva (53%) al Rey Juan Carlos I de Borbón (51.2%), a
José Luís Rodríguez Zapatero (48,2%), y a Michelle
Bachelet (45.9%).
Hugo Chávez, quien a pesar de ser uno de los líderes
más importantes, solo cuenta con el 26 % de simpatía
en América Latina.

[EFerrari]

16. All I'm finding so far is a statement by Davidow where he says

Obama is more popular than Chavez in Venezuela -- which is interesting as sort of an unnecessary dig. It seems as though this relationship continues to be construed as a contest.