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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 02:13 PM
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Venezuelan students protest university law

CARACAS, Venezuela – Police and soldiers fired water cannons and plastic bullets Thursday as thousands of students protested against a law passed by Venezuela's congress that increases government powers over the country's universities.

At least three people were injured, including a news photographer who was treated for a cut to the head after being hit with an object.

Dozens of police and National Guard troops in anti-riot gear blocked student protesters outside the Central University of Venezuela in Caracas, firing plastic bullets into the air.

The law governing universities was approved by the National Assembly early Thursday, and students denounced it as an attempt by President Hugo Chavez to clamp down on autonomous state universities that have been a bastion of opposition to his government.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101223/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_venezuela_chavez

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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 02:44 PM
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1. I think Chavez should listen to the students.
Then again, these must just be paid right-wing agitators, right?
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social_critic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 02:56 PM
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3. Small crowd
A Venezuelan friend tells me it was a relatively small crowd of rabble rousers, and they were going to march to a large plaza, where they would snarl traffic. People are out shopping for Xmas, so I think the sense was please don't blockade the darned city when we're trying to do last minute shopping. I suspect next few weeks it will get a little rougher as the crowds get larger. And i also heard the chavistas are starting to complain about the new set of laws.

I don't like the way this is going. Chavez could have kept things on a much better footing if he had competent people around him, but they do seem to be really out of touch with reality. And I think Chavez being in power is good for Cuba, so more power to him. The problem is the economy isn't doing well, and what I see them doing is just not going to work.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 02:55 PM
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2. This article neither quotes the text of the new law
Edited on Thu Dec-23-10 02:56 PM by EFerrari
nor gives an interpretation of the law from a pro-government viewpoint. IOW, it's cr@p. :)
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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 02:57 PM
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4. why don't you look up the law for us?? n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 04:58 PM
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6. Because even if I knit it for you in a fisherman's pattern
it wouldn't change the fact that this article has an agenda?
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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 07:30 PM
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7. lets see, you posed that "response" as a question, so I'll just give you more info
it appears the article has been updated to give more info on what the students are protesting. Is this better??? happy knitting.



The law gives Chavez's higher education minister broad powers to decide on academic programs and university operations, and says universities should promote education that reinforces the government's aim of building a "socialist homeland."

Anti-Chavez protesters say the law gives too much power to the national government and also seeks to impose socialist ideology.

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social_critic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 03:01 PM
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5. Text of the new law in Spanish
I don't know whether this is the new law or not, but I just searched using Google for you, and this is the only thing I found:

http://lapatilla.com/site/2010/12/20/aunque-usted-no-lo-crea-otro-proyecto-de-ley-de-educacion-universitaria/

I think it's up to you to find a counter with a pro-government point of view - after all this is sort like an open debate, isn't it?

I read the document above, and it does look controversial. I also find the way it was approved to be a little bit off - they rushed it in just as the congress's mandate is about to expire, and didn't have the customary period for the law to be debated by the public. It just makes them look like they're rushing in a set of laws to avoid having the debate in a congress where the opposition is represented in larger numbers. Heck, they have the majority in the new congress anyway, so it's just silly to rush it this way.

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