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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:02 AM
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Coakley Headed to Defeat in Massachusetts Unless Democratic Base Turns Out
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Coakley-Headed-to-Defeat-i-by-Steven-Leser-100118-324.html
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By Steven Leser

President Obama and former President Clinton have both visited the bay state in the last 48 hours to galvanize support for a seemingly hapless Martha Coakley who has found herself in a tight race for what should have been an easy election victory.

Statewide elections in Massachusetts tend to favor Democratic candidates. That we have a close race in this election with some polls of likely voters showing the Republican a few points ahead is the result of a number of factors:

1. Elections like off year elections and special elections in months other than November usually have a depressed turn out that favors the candidate whose supporters are more energized.

2. The Republican base is unusually energized as a result of all of the lies they have been fed about health care reform.

3. The Democratic base seems disinterested or demoralized.

4. The Democratic candidate has not run a strong campaign. Coakley's team seems to have thought the demographics in Massachusetts would be enough to assure her the win. Coakley did not perform well in the debates and has made a number of gaffes during the campaign.

5. Senior members of the Democratic Party were slow to recognize the danger. The White House, the DNC and the Massachusetts Democratic Party didn't realize this was a real race until polls showed the race within the margin of error.

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This race will be won or lost on turnout, specifically that of Democrats. If Massachusetts Democrats come out and vote on Tuesday, January 19, Brown and the Republicans don't have a chance. Most experts are banking on the idea that this will not happen.

Implications for Health Care Reform

Some interesting scenarios come into play if Coakley loses the race. At first glance, it would seem that this would deal a death blow to reform efforts as this would mean Democrats would only have potentially 59 votes in the senate and could not overcome a filibuster if all Republicans would unite behind one. However, we would still see a passage of Health Care Reform if Coakley loses.

First, it could take up to two weeks to certify the results and seat Brown. That is more than enough time for Democrats to unite behind a compromise bill, have it scored by the CBO and rush it through congress for a vote with Coakley still representing Massachusetts. For Democrats, that is the best case scenario if Coakley loses. The problem with this scenario is it has two dependencies that could fail, the speed of the certification, and the ability of Democrats to speedily produce and vote on a final bill.

If the above could not be done in time, the Democrats could still get a bill passed if House Democrats agreed to the entire Senate bill. The senate has already voted on this bill and I don't believe it would be required for them to vote on it again. This would be an ugly scenario. There are many issues with the Senate version of the Health Care Reform bill and many Democrats, myself included, have hopes that those issues can be rectified in a final bill.

It is beyond the Health Care Reform bill where we see the maximum effect of a potential Coakley loss in Mssachusetts. A Republican victory would probably derail most of the rest of the Obama agenda. Republican senators have exhibited disciplined solidarity in their opposition to President Obama and the Democrats thus far in Obama's term. There could very well be no progress on immigration reform, Gay rights and a host of other issues. Items of spending and other budgetary measures could still be passed through reconciliation.

The loss could be the beginning of a long Democratic slide that culminates in a loss of the congress in November and perhaps even a loss of the White House in 2012.

If Coakley loses, regardless of circumstances the single thought permeating American politics will be, if Democrats cannot win in Massachusetts, where can they win?

The publicity surrounding the recent polls could be just what Coakley needs to wake up the Massachusetts Democratic base. Few statewide elections have ever mattered as much as this one does. With the stakes so high, the next 48 hours will afford some of the biggest political drama the country has seen in over a year.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:04 AM
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1. But Rahm Told Me That I'm Irrelevant
Do I matter... or not?
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:13 AM
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4. of course you matter . . . well, at least your vote matters . . .
beyond that - not so much
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:13 AM
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5. Your not entirely irrelevant but the bigger issue is voter apathy.
Seems many Dems lost interest in politics after the 08 election. Maybe they will wake up when the GOPers make a significant comeback and threaten to take over this country again.
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:32 AM
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10. The two, apathy and irrelevance, are one and the same when talking about elections..
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:07 AM
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13. My point is general voter apathy is a bigger issue than angry progressives.
Edited on Mon Jan-18-10 10:12 AM by DCBob
Many thought it was enough to dump the GOP and elect Obama and a majority Dem congress. Most voters are not interested in fighting politics every day of their lives like some on this board.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:14 AM
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7. You aren't the base. You've made that abundantly clear.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:05 AM
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2. Well, I can only say that thousands are working the ground and the phones on GOTV. They are trying.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:18 PM
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30. They are the real deal, they know it isn't over till it is over. They know anything
worth having is worth working hard for.

Go Coakley!!!
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:08 AM
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3. In 48 hours the truth will be known
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:13 AM
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6. I agree with your analysis
NT
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:16 AM
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8. Let' win this one! Thanks for your post
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:21 AM
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9. I am not from MA but I have an interest in this
race. From all I hear the media are out to get Ms Coakley. She seems to have much more in the area of qualifications than Mr Brown. Some think she is not campaigning hard enough. We are being programmed to believe she will lose. That is the way of the media and Republicans. I simply can not believe the citizens of MA will choose Mr Show-it-all (especially when there is nothing there) over Ms Coakley. They can't be that stupid. If she loses it will be because of Diebold and the media. They are crooked.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:38 AM
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11. I am from MA, and I do believe Coakley will win
But it will be much too close for comfort. She should have sailed to victory easily. But the Dem party here has became complacent. They assumed they would win, and didn't start working for it until a week or two ago.

At this point, the airwaves and phones are saturated with ads and robocalls for each of the candidates. I hope the Dem base has woken up and will show up at the polls tomorrow.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 07:10 PM
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23. Thanks for the positive post- Go Coakley!! n/t
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:57 AM
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12. It's the fence sitters that have to turn out, and I'm afraid the Dems have disillusioned them
Edited on Mon Jan-18-10 09:58 AM by rocktivity
The political moderates, religious moderates, and former loyal ex-Bushies are the ones who put Obama over the top. If they stay home, Coakley can win by only a razors' edge.

:headbang:
rocktivity

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Obamacare Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 07:20 PM
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25. Hmmmm
Political moderates, religious moderates and former loyal ex-Bushies did put Obama over the top in SWING states like FL, OH, VA etc etc. But not deep navy blue Ma, Coakley should be a shoe in and none of this has anything to do with Obama. Its the dem party in Ma for running such a lack luster candidate, Obama has done everything under the sun to help Coakley other than put his own damn name on the ballot. Again, whats up with the dem party in Ma are they asleep???
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:49 AM
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32. Posted 11PM Monday: "Brown is up 64-32 with independents
and is winning 20% of the vote from people who supported Barack Obama in 2008 while Coakley is getting just 4% of the McCain vote."

Hooray for me.

:(
rocktivity
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:11 AM
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14. Now if only the democrats had concentrated on the base as much as on Lieberman this might not be an
issue. Now would it?
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ProgressOnTheMove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:20 AM
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15. This is potentially the loss of the century, it's kind of mind-blowing the ripple effects of Coakley
Edited on Mon Jan-18-10 10:30 AM by ProgressOnTheMove
losing. Well ultimately democracy decides if conservatism it is conservatism it will be. With all their 'common sense' solutions. I'm going with que sera sera.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZbKHDPPrrc
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Tailormyst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:22 AM
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16. Been told over and over I am irrelevant, all I want is a pony, just wait a few more years
and they wonder why people like be are unenthusiastic about working again for the party? "Together we can" and "Yes we can" turned out to be BS phrases used to punk us into actually buying into their crap. Martha gets my vote, but only because I hate Scott Brown. She showed she was just another smarmy politician when she flipped on HCR as soon as she won the primary and ASSUMED that she won the seat. FOR ONCE I would like to be able to vote for SOMEONE who is fucking HONEST about where they stand.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:24 PM
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31. Our entire party platform will be deemed irrelevant. The Repub. ideals will be what the media works
Edited on Mon Jan-18-10 10:25 PM by wisteria
And, it appears voters may be willing to forgive and forget what all the Repubs have done to this country over the past eight years. The Repbulicans will be rewarded for all their efforts at destruction and obstruction.

I say we still have a change-I refuse to give up. We are on the side that is right.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:36 AM
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17. I guess if they want feet on the
ground they had better ask the centrists since they are the ones who seem to matter.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 07:00 PM
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19. Get ready to be ignored even more......
The message that will be given to America
will have nothing to do with progressives,
other than they have lost.

So your "message" as intended
will not be the message gotten....
and with that, I will be saying..."told your ass so".
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 07:43 PM
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28. Yes, what do the Obama haters think will happen if we cannot craft legislation without the GOP?
If we literally have to convince one or more Republican senators to vote for cloture on each bill, what kind of bills do the Obama haters think will be produced?

Fighting to defeat Coakley is the most stupid idea I have ever seen come out of a Democrat's mouth/brain/fingers.

"We're going to send a message that we hate centrist legislation by defeating a pr-LGBT Democratic candidate and forcing Democrats to work with Republicans to craft bills."

That is some of the worst logic I have seen on DU ever.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 07:27 PM
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27. Pharma and the insurance industry have a lot of money- but don't put boots on the ground
for Democrats.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 06:55 PM
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18. This cannot be the perfect storm
for getting stuck with a freakin' sociopathic senator in Mass for 6 bloody years.

:patriot:~STAND WITH MARTHA~:patriot:
http://www.marthacoakley.com/splash_out_pre
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 07:04 PM
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20. 6. People are pissed at Pres Obama's lack of leadership in healthcare reform
You forgot that one.


Although that DOES tie-in with your #3.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 07:22 PM
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26. Not solely HCR, but on the wider economy.
The feeling seems to be widespread that he (and D.C. Democrats in general) have not been on the side of ordinary people.

How this paradigm shift was allowed to happen (Dems pro-banks, Pukes pro-Main Street)... well, that's something scholars will be studying for generations. It's truly mind-boggling.

BTW, I do think Coakley will win tomorrow. I can only hope the Dem Party bigwigs will learn the right lessons from the whole experience.

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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 07:08 PM
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21. The party is a stage coach stuck in the mud and the DLC has shot all the ponies to make glue
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 07:08 PM
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22. It has always depended on turnout- so what is new about this negative post?
We will win this.
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 07:45 PM
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29. Its Massachusetts. It shouldnt depend on turnout. It should be a blowout (nt)
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 07:16 PM
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24. GOTV kisses to MA DUers nt
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