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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:19 PM
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Republicans Aren't Sitting As Pretty As They Think - Tea Party Convention "unraveling."
Most of the analysis of the impact of Scott Brown’s upset victory in Massachusetts has naturally revolved around the Democratic Party. Having lost the “Kennedy seat,” in the bluest of blue states, with health care reform legislation (and the ability to overcome Republican filibusters on other legislation) in extreme peril, and already facing a very difficult midterm election environment, what can the Donkey Party and its leaders do to mitigate the damage? Will they pull together or scatter to the four winds? Will vulnerable House members retire, making a Republican takeover in November that much more likely? And is the president in a political freefall that could make him effectively a lame duck between now and the end of 2011, and a sitting duck in his re-election year?

These are all reasonable questions, but it’s also worth asking whether Republicans may be in danger of over-interpreting the Brown win, and refusing to deal with some of their own political problems.

Few vulnerable Democrats this November will run anything like the kind of clumsy and somnolent campaign conducted by Martha Coakley. Few Republican challengers will have the luxury enjoyed by Scott Brown to pose as all things to all people: a “liberal Republican” to some, a nonpartisan to others, and a tea party zealot to the rest. No other venue will give Republicans the opportunity to attack national health care reform by way of defending identical reforms at the state level. And few states will provide GOP candidates with a fat-and-happy state Democratic establishment used to winning with little or no effort (indeed, some states, such as Georgia and South Carolina, have a fat-and-happy Republican establishment with a growing record of corruption and toxic infighting). More fundamentally, the idea that a Republican Senate victory in Massachusetts means the nation is turning “red” makes no more sense that asserting Nebraska or Alaska turned “blue” when they elected Democratic senators in actual general elections without the skewed turnout patterns exhibited in the Bay State’s special election.

There’s also the whole question of turnout in November. What’s been fueling Democratic pessimism about the 2010 elections all along has been the understanding that older white voters—one of Obama’s weakest demographic groups in 2008—usually turn out at relatively high levels in midterm elections, while younger voters—and sometimes minority voters—usually don’t. There’s nothing quite like an Armageddon-like national political atmosphere, with Republican extremism fully on display, to boost overall turnout.

Looking beyond 2010, Republicans have a real problem with their putative presidential field for 2012. It’s easy to say that new “stars” will emerge this November, but it’s extremely unlikely any of them—or for that matter, the flavor-of-the-month, Scott Brown—would be in a position to run for president so soon. That leaves the GOP with some slim pickins: Mitt Romney, whose identification with health reform in Massachusetts is a potentially disqualifying problem; Mike Huckabee, whom economic conservatives and most conservative talk-show-hosts hate; the less-than-scintillating Tim Pawlenty, who is deeply vulnerable to an early knockout blow in his next-door-state of Iowa; and of course, Sarah Palin.

While Democrats have some very big problems, it’s no time for irrational exuberance among Republicans. They’ve got problems, too, and at the moment, appear far less willing to deal with them.

http://www.thedemocraticstrategist.org/strategist/2010/01/republicans_arent_sitting_as_p.php

A Tea Party convention billed as the coming together of the grass-roots groups that began sprouting up around the country a year ago is unraveling as sponsors and participants pull out to protest its expense and express concerns about “profiteering.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/26/us/politics/26teaparty.html
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:20 PM
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1. Unexpected consequences: Palin Breaks Up Tea Party
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:21 PM
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2. Tea Party convention going down the drain.
I still say Mittens is the most likely candidate for President. Who else do they have?
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:26 PM
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3. Probably someone who's not even on the radar screen.
Possibly Brown.

I don't think they would ever nominate a non-Christian like Romney.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:42 PM
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6. Mormons are Christians. Just not the sterotypical type.
They believe in Christ but believe in some things typical Christians don't.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:44 PM
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10. According to the Evangelicals, they are not.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:51 PM
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12. The Evangelicals are nuts, as are the Mormons.
Sigh...I am just a boring, liberal Lutheran.
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 08:35 PM
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13. Fooey. According to Evangelicals...
Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 08:37 PM by badgerpup
...Catholics are not "Christians"...
despite the fact that Catholicism IS the root from which "Christianity" in all its schisms, flavors and perversions permutations sprang. :eyes:


Just re-read that..."Fooey" is directed toward the group listed in the subject line.

Edit for (hopefully) clarification
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 10:39 PM
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16. Well, Mormons don't accept the Nicene Creed.
Which is pretty much the definition of Christianity.

I can see why Evangos don't consider them Christian.
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:03 PM
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7. Bown's not eligible for the nomination...
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:45 PM
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11. Interesting... but he could have a conversion.
Lots of GOP pols have converted to anti-abortion when it was convenient.
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 09:34 PM
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15. Didn't work for Mittens.....
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:30 PM
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4. Thats actually not good news
A break up of the tea parties means those nutjobs will be back voting for the GOP candidates instead of splintering their votes into smaller groups.
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:33 PM
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5. Yup...
It is better for us if the Tea Party convention had gone off without a hitch and those buffoons started thinking they could form a real party.

If their attempts at Tea Party organization flops, they just fall back under the GOP banner with no questions asked.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:04 PM
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8. Hahahaha fuck the Tea Partiers and fuck the people who support them.
I hope they all get ass cancer.
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:15 PM
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9. The Tea Party is a small and ineffective movement
funny how FoxNews creates this and everyone thinks they are the major force to be reckoned with.

They didn't have any impact on the MA election. It's resulted in what? An extra 60,000 voters for Brown and that's even considering those voters were attracted by the Tea party. Meanwhile, most of the voters stayed home. If the Tea Party really had any impact it probably drives people away.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 09:06 PM
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14. I never thought to connect the Beigich win as a Democrat taking Ted Stevens seat
Or thought what does that mean for Sarah Palin? Senator Stevens, the longest serving Republican.

It really is amazing that Scott Brown is viewed so many different ways - except for not wanting to go near them, I wonder what posting the videos of Brown with Kerry (where he speaks of having worked with Kerry, having great respect for him, and having worked with him in the past http://www.necn.com/Boston/Politics/2010/01/21/Brown-meets-with-Kerry-on/1264090686.html ) and the video with McCain where he says he is independent and points out he voted for health care in MA.) innocently on them - may be saying he was good looking and NOT mentioning any content. http://www.necn.com/Boston/Politics/2010/01/21/Brown-meets-with-McCain-says/1264093247.html Then maybe Ayla explaining she voted for Kerry in 2008 because he was incredibly nice. http://www.necn.com/Boston/Politics/2010/01/22/Ayla-Brown-acknowledges-it/1264195151.html

Imagine the tea partiers reaction - this would be like if we thought there was some ultraprogressive person who won in say South Carolina- then speaking of how he respected Jim DeMint and his daughter saying that she voted for him because he was incredibly nice. They are so gleeful now - it might be fun to do.
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