Chris Matthews Does it Again

[mikiturner]

Had a Focus on the Family bigot on. Not only did Matthews get him to say that gay folk should be banned from military service, he also got him to say that being gay should be criminalized(!). Wow.

:scared::scared::scared::scared::scared:

[JoePhilly]

1. Just saw it ... well done.

[tishaLA]

2. I like when he shines the light on those cockroaches

I'll have to catch the rerun

[polichick]

3. Yep - this time he exposed the asshole for what he is. nt

[cutlassmama]

4. he's good like that n/t

[polichick]

7. He is - except when he's not listening and gets something way wrong. nt

[CakeGrrl]

5. You need these people to expose their true attitudes in public, otherwise

people perceive them as moral and on the side of right.

Consider that Matthews might be playing Devil's Advocate to expose the extremists, not to support them.

[Cha]

18. Exactly..

the good tweety.

[Cleita]

6. No doubt he's a bigot not only about race but about gays as well. n/t

[Hell Hath No Fury]

9. Reread the post

Methinks you misunderstood.

[vaberella]

14. What are you on about? And if you're speaking about Tweety you're wrong on so many levels.

Most of all race.

[Cleita]

19. I clearly heard Chris Matthews say that he forgot

President Obama was a black man for an hour after listening to the SOTU speech. It's on video forever. You can't deny this and don't say that a remark like this isn't racist. If it had been Hillary and he said he forgot for an hour that she was a woman, it would have been the same thing just a different bigotry or sexism.

[vaberella]

22. I read the statement and saw him say it.

You're understanding is way way off base and you were told this by many on your thread. You label him a racist and ignore the context which was an extremely valid statement. And it would have been said if it was HRC and it would have been the same if let's say bell hooks became the first Black woman President---it's not racist. It makes sense. Because society and the media have labeled him a Black President---not just president. Tweety was just saying when he heard him speak you don't see anything about Black you just see President. That's not racist and I'm someone who is ridiculously hypersensitive to racism and sexism since I've been victimized on a regular basis for both.

[Number23]

24. Vab, ALOT of people think his comment was racist. And that's just the truth of the matter

[vaberella]

25. And I disagree with those "alot" of people. Because it was not.

And we know from the past that Tweety is far from racist. You don't go and work in a developing nation and dedicate 2 years of your life to the peace corps because you're racist. But not only because of that, his statement as I said...is valid.

I'll state it again, from the moment Obama became President...People wouldn't use Obama is President without stressing he is a Black President, the United States' first Black President. The also reinforced this by engaging Black citizens about their feelings on him being Black and President, ditto for every other citizen they could get their hands on.

The statement, when taken in context says to me, and which I find insightful, that our society for all intents and purposes would always look on Obama is not a President, as any other leader. But a Black leader of a nation that was built on racism. It was impossible not to see. At that moment in time from what I could see of Matthews' point is that he's a President without color association.

For example, and this was on this board during the time. I'm going to use the debate between Obama and McCain. It was always stated, on this board and even in the media if Obama came across as combative or even slightly aggressive he'd be labeled the angry Black man beating up on the old man. Do you see how this works? Even at that point, for many who saw him as Presidential and worthy of office there was this niggling in the back of the mind that some derogatory stereotype based on his skin color or race plays a role in how he reacts.

So always there's this unity of race and Presidency. We can go even further to when he even declared he would run and how the naysayers would say it would be hard for an unknown Black Senator from Chicago would win the presidential seat. So color/race politics was always there. Then there are people, this is speaking from those on DU, who have said that the GOP and many Republicans are intentionally knocking down the President because of racist mentalities.

So what Matthews' statement does is that it shows how even he was conditioned and by these various influences. And it shows how the social construction we're so used to can move into another realm of understanding. It shows he's passed that race realm and I have to say many on here have not. So I didn't see his statement as racist.

For something to be racist it should be an act that oppresses another group. It does not. In actuality it opens the door to understanding what he's currently left behind because of Obama's influence on politics and race relations, moving forward---well at least or Chris, this is not to say this was done for the rest of the world, as I stated.

[Number23]

26. I'm sure that you have a valid point in there. I am one of the "alot" who thinks that what Matthews

said was racist and ridiculous. That may not mean that Matthews is racist, but his comment certainly was.

[vaberella]

27. Your word usage to basically disregard & marginalize my statements, which was very cute.

I don't see you list an argument that explains why it was racist. But then again I don't even want to waste the time after reading your statement above.

[Number23]

28. I've listed it before. The black posters on this site have listed it a hundred times.

If you choose to still disagree and see something else that is certainly your choice. We don't all have to agree that it was racist. Makes no difference to me.

[burning rain]

8. Proving once again that moderates have their moments!

:thumbsup:

[Cleita]

10. So you are saying Chris didn't agree with him?

That's how your post read. Maybe the OP should add something about Matthews not agreeing. This was meant in answer for #9.

[mikiturner]

11. Matthews let him hang himself

He just asked the question.

[vaberella]

15. You're like the only one who read it that way. n/t

[Cleita]

20. How do you know? Are you all seeing or knowing or something like that?

I'm sorry to gore your sacred cow but Tweety has been an ass for a long time now. I will never forget what he did to Clinton when he was President at a time when we needed a full time President instead of helping Ken Starr conduct a witch hunt on him. Where you around when he had Lucienne Goldberg, Linda Tripp, Ann Coulter and many other harpies that now regularly appear on Fox News only to try to tear him down? Many of the problems we still have today was because Clinton couldn't attend to the real problems we were having because of the harrassment he got over the Lewinsky scandal and subsequent impeachment that resulted from it and it was pundits like Chris Matthews that shoveled the coals on the fire over and over again.

[vaberella]

23. I'm going by all the statements on this thread...since the discussion is on this thread.

Based on all responses on this thread...you're the only one who misunderstood.

[crazylikafox]

12. I just saw that. It was a beautiful thing to watch.

I'm luving me some Tweety tonight.

[vaberella]

13. Video please, Video please. n/t

[Divine Discontent]

16. MOST excellent! Glad they expose those bigots! To criminalize being Gay is asking for some serious

blow-back! They deserve to be HAMMERED for this! PLEASE some big Dems hammer the hell out of them for it!!!

[LatteLibertine]

17. It's good Chris got that fellow to reveal precisely

who we are dealing with. He did indeed clearly say homosexual acts should be made illegal in the United States. Many folks against gay marriage are right in step with him too. Chris gave him the rope and let the fellow hang himself. IMO it was well done. Let people see that prejudice without a filter. If Chris had been calling him a homophobe all of the interview I doubt he would have been able to get that out of him.

[Skittles]

21. ALRIGHT I'LL DO IT

I'LL GIVE TWEETY KUDOS