Where the fuck is Rahm-bo?

[Enrique]

Darrell Issa just called Obama a liar.

Obama won the election, the democrats are majorities in both houses. Tort reform is not a priority of the democrats, it's a priority of republicans, whom the voters rejected overwhelmingly.

Obama has every right to blow Issa off if he wants. He's the president of the United States. Issa is the ranking member of a congressional committee.

So Issa is way out of line for calling Obama a liar for not taking his orders. If he's out of line, someone should come down on him. Isn't that what Rahm is supposed to be so good at?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/08/house-republican-issa-cha_n_453398.html

President Obama's health care reform outreach to congressional Republicans got off to a bumpy start on Monday morning, when Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) blasted a statement to reporters headlined: "First Question for President Obama: Did You Lie About Moving Forward on Malpractice Reform?"

(...)

Spokespersons for the White House and HHS didn't immediately return requests for comment, but one thing at least is clear: Obama did instruct HHS to move forward on a specific tort-reform initiative, which is a major concession to the GOP and a setback for trial lawyers. We know that Obama did so because he made the instruction in public, in front of both the House and Senate and, for what it's worth, C-SPAN cameras as well.

[DJ13]

1. Rahm's poltics are too closely aligned with Issa to take him to task

Obama probably doesnt want to put his good buddy Rahm in a situation where he has to confront a fellow conservative.

[phleshdef]

4. You just embarassed yourself with that excessively ignorant statement.

Say what you want about Rahm, about how he operates, about how his connections, yadda, yadda, but hit VOTING RECORD is extremely liberal and to accuse him of being anything resembling a conservative shows that you care less about facts as they exist in reality and more about trashing someone you don't like, to the point that you would even lie and distort their ideological stance in order to do so. Shameful.

[DJ13]

7. He's a Blue Dog

Sorry if that upsets you, but its true.

He's more conservative than most Democrats, and we wont even talk about how his dealings for Obama on HCR have dovetailed with his brother's desire to privatize much of Medicare.

If thats a Democratic position I guess our party is no longer a valid alternative to conservative Republicans.

[phleshdef]

9. His voting record sais otherwise and you lack the ability to refute that.

http://www.ontheissues.org/IL/Rahm_Emanuel.htm

That is not a blue dog's voting record. Next time inform yourself and actually know what you are talking about, maybe you will avoid making a fool out of yourself.

He supported NAFTA and a few other things that aren't great, but he has just as liberal a voting record as anyone.

[DJ13]

10. His actions NOW says you're wrong

He's no friend to liberals, unless you enjoy being told your ideals are "fucking retarded".

[phleshdef]

12. Oh no, don't try to change the subject. You said he was a conservative.

I clearly showed you how "fucking retarded" such a statement like that is based on his voting record. You can disagree with his tactics or his compromises and things like that, I all ready said that was fine by me, but he is in no way even close to being a conservative as I have clearly proven. You have egg on your face because of your statement, wipe it off and move on.

And please, stop lying. The story was never that Rahm Emmanual said that liberal ideals were "fucking retarded", he said running ads against the healthcare reform bill was "fucking retarded", and I agree, it was because it was extremely counterproductive to making any progress at all. Please refrain from lying about stuff like this in the future, it doesn't help your argument at all.

[DJ13]

14. Semantics

I said he was a conservative, as in his actions now in the WH.

You claimed his past voting record said otherwise.

Again I say his actions NOW says he's a conservative.

He's running the HCR effort for Obama, theres nothing liberal about the direction he's been aiming for.

As I said before, he's a Blue Dog (as in NOW), sorry if that opinion upsets you.

[phleshdef]

17. Its not an opinion that upsets me. Its one that makes me laugh because its so damned ignorant.

You don't even know what his "actions now" are. All you know are a few off hand quotes from some tabloid-esque media pieces and your own desire to craft some opinion about someone that you obviously know nothing about.

And agreeing or disagree with the direction of the current healthcare bill, saying that there is anything conservative about it further illustrates an ignorance on your part, especially when it comes to what "liberal" and "conservative" even mean. The conservative approach would be to not want a bill at all as it is a move by the government to manipulate the health insurance market. This healthcare bill may not be particularly progressive, not as much as many would like, but its definately liberal just based on the fact that regulating the insurance industry is involved. You don't GET to have an opinion on that, its not a subjective thing that lends itself to an opinion. Words have definitions and meanings and you, contrary to what you may think, don't GET to decide what they mean.

You can continue to blather on with more blatant ignorance and continue to show us all how ill informed you are on matters of politics and political language. It doesn't bother me one bit. But expect to be called on it and I could give less of a shit if that upsets you.

[DJ13]

18. We disagree

Get over it.

[TheWraith]

13. If he had EVER ACTUALLY SAID THAT, you might have a point.

Making shit up FAIL.

[TheWraith]

15. +100.

Whether you like Rahm and his style and pragmatism or not, he IS deeply on the side of the left.

[wyldwolf]

16. +1000

[Cali_Democrat]

2. The Obama Admin doesn't have time to respond to every single accusation made by a repug hack. n/t

[Enrique]

3. should they respond to this one do you think?

imo there's no question about it. Issa is way out of line and people should know that. What about you, on this one?

[theoldman]

5. Rahm should kick Issa's ass.

[Hippo_Tron]

6. Something along the lines of "YOU LIE" would be appropriate, I think

[TheKentuckian]

8. He's lying in the mud with survival knife at the ready waiting for a liberal to cross him

He's coming for YOU!

[rocktivity]

11. Under orders to stay under the radar, no doubt

until his latest abomination circles the memory hole.

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