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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 03:45 PM Original message |
Who cares about the Bayhs of the party? Let's run progressives everywhere... |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
1. The reason we're in the majority is because we had Dems. who won in their red states. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 04:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. We're already in the minority when it comes to getting anything done. nt |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 04:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Not as far as what bills come up for a vote...... |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 04:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. You're assuming we'd lose if we ran populist progressives - I don't think so. nt |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 04:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Yeah.....OK. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 04:10 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Too many Dems have bought into the myth that this is a center-right country... |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 04:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. There are "center-right" states in this country. You must know that. n/t |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 05:37 PM Response to Reply #8 |
28. You realize that Obama didn't carry every Congressional District and State |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 04:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. So federal funding of embryonic stem cell would've come up for a vote? I don't think so. |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 04:27 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. Go do some research and find out who the reliable voters are. |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-16-10 12:35 AM Response to Reply #13 |
51. +Infinity, I'm always surprised people think Progressives will be able to do everything. |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-16-10 02:28 AM Response to Reply #4 |
55. Give us names of these sure fire winners please |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 04:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Wow-you really don't understand the importance of being in the majority vs. the minority in Congress |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 04:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. You're also assuming we'd lose if we ran populist progressives. nt |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 04:14 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Glad to see you finally acknowledging it DOES make a difference whether Dems. are in |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Why do you buy into those right-wing talking points?nt |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 04:44 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. I don't. Read more carefully next time. I didn't say this is a center-right country. That's the |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 05:04 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. That too is a right-wing/corporate Dem talking point... |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 07:01 PM Response to Reply #20 |
34. No, it's called, "reality." |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-16-10 12:51 AM Response to Reply #34 |
53. I love you girl. You get a heart emoticon. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 07:23 PM Response to Reply #20 |
36. I'd like to know which states and congressional districts won by McCain |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 08:07 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Don't hold your breath. n/t |
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brooklynite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 10:28 PM Response to Reply #20 |
45. and California elected Ronald Reagan, so it must still be RW today... |
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Eric Condon (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-16-10 02:25 AM Response to Reply #20 |
54. Yeah, 50 years ago, when this country was still liberal (economically, if not socially) |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-16-10 10:58 AM Response to Reply #9 |
57. I see exactly zero evidence to the contrary. |
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stranger81 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 05:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
31. But even as the majority, we're still not able to get anything done -- |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 05:59 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. That's right - the status quo works fine for corporate Dems... |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-16-10 10:56 AM Response to Reply #2 |
56. 0 > -1 |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 09:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
44. Amen, why do so many posters think progressives could win in those states? |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
12. Things do not get done in Washington when no one will yield. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 04:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. If Dems drew a clear distinction between a peoples party and a corporate party... |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
17. Nice in concept but not so good in reality. And right now Mass is electing Republicans. |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
18. Look at all the Message Discipline LLC ops racing to unrec this thread. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 04:58 PM Response to Reply #18 |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
21. "Let's bring Dean back and run progressives EVERYWHERE," |
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tranche (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
22. And you get a progressive, and you get a progessive, and you... |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 05:17 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. I'd be a lot more fired up if the prez and the head of the DNC were on board... |
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sandyd921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
24. You can win with a progressive |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 05:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Exactly - paint a clear picture of the difference between the candidates... |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
25. I see you're finding out the truth about GDP- |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 05:32 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. It's been that way for a long time, but I'm still amused from time to time. :) |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 05:39 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. You're amused? You want Dean back, who were the progressives he ran in 2006 and 2008? n/t |
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AlinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
30. And we will win over the long run. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 05:59 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Agreed - with this party or another. nt |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
35. Progressives everywhere? That wasn't Dean's strategy. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 07:32 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. One of the reasons they don't get along today is that they had different ideas... |
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theothersnippywshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 08:14 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. The major differences they had were about where to spend money. |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
40. You do realize that Vermont "progressives" loathed Dean, right? |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 08:25 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. McKinney won in fucking Georgia, for Christ's sake |
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nsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 08:29 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Neither McKinney nor Kucinich has ever won a statewide race. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 08:38 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. so how do you think McKinney (or Dennis for that matter) would do in a state wide race? |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-16-10 12:18 AM Response to Reply #41 |
50. Dennis is a Congressman. |
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Born_A_Truman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-16-10 12:35 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. 2004 he got 9% of the primary vote in Ohio |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-16-10 12:13 AM Response to Reply #40 |
48. He's a policy moderate, but he is vehemently anti-establishment. |
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smalll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
46. Run progressives - EVERYWHERE? That strategy sounds a little, well, you know -- |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-16-10 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
47. As far as I'm concerned there is no difference between a DLCer and a Republican. |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-16-10 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
49. Enjoy 40 Senators! |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-16-10 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
58. I agree with the sentiment. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-16-10 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
59. Agreed. The number of unrecc's shows you just how deeply infected we are by |
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