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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 05:08 PM Original message |
I have to say this, we gays made what happened during this administration for gays possible |
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dave29 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
1. god job :) |
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VMI Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
2. bitin' the hand that feeds you in....3....2.... |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
3. Exactly. It is not 1993. |
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newtothegame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 01:42 PM Response to Reply #3 |
43. I guess I'm interested in what troubles people about this. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. 100% false. "Fierce Advocate for the GLBT community" he told us. |
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newtothegame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 02:41 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. But that's my point. His rhetoric and our blinders told us a story that was completely different... |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 02:42 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. To some extent, perhaps so. |
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newtothegame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 02:44 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Peace friend. I completely agree that he has been a letdown, not a fierce advocate at all. |
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muffin1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 03:59 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. I agree. |
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shedevil69taz (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 10:41 PM Response to Reply #48 |
75. I voted for him because he promised |
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muffin1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
4. K&R |
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Gman2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
5. A rising tide lifts all boats. They have moved all goalposts. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
6. Very clear and to the point |
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TokenQueer (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 05:30 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Indeed. |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 08:04 PM Response to Reply #6 |
18. Should be taking notes indeed. |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 09:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
21. I don't judge. My husband's uncle is gay and has HIV. It has been a long, tough |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 09:48 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. And |
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jesus_of_suburbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:16 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. MANY Southern Baptists are hateful hypocrites. Almost all are hateful. |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 12:16 AM Response to Reply #22 |
28. New Englanders generally don't give a crap about someone else's business. We have a rep for being |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 01:17 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. I live in Mass and that sounds about right. |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. The land of the constant beeping? |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
7. I have missed your posts. NT |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
9. obama wants to drag it out until too many repub votes make it impossible to dump DADT then he can |
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muffin1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 06:13 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. +1 |
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Gman2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 06:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. -1 When will you learn, that is the fake, not the jab. |
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muffin1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 09:14 PM Response to Reply #9 |
19. +1,000,000 n/t |
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Hutzpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
12. Imagine if all the other groups |
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muffin1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 07:01 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Nobody thinks the republicans would do a better job. |
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Hutzpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 07:10 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Whats more important? |
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muffin1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 07:20 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. I thought he was a jedi master. |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 07:43 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. "I'm not against gay . . ." |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 09:33 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. If you have to say it........... |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:56 PM Response to Reply #12 |
24. The fact is that gay groups would be estatic if the following three things were done |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 11:49 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. And three is in the works, right? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 12:02 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. we were promised DADT this year |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 07:23 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. There are still 8 months left in the year. |
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muffin1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 07:54 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Maybe |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 08:04 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Like I also stated in another post. IMO religion is a factor. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 08:10 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. His supposed religion doesn't seem to affect his thinking on any other issue. |
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muffin1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 08:18 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Oh, I 'm sure it IS a factor. |
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onpatrol98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 10:23 PM Response to Reply #32 |
89. I don't think his bond to his religion is causing the problem... |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 10:13 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. So he has a process. |
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muffin1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 10:25 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. There already IS support for repealing DADT. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 08:59 PM Response to Reply #36 |
55. Sure, he should do it quickly by executive order |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 09:04 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. actually Clinton ended all other discrimination by the federal government against gays via executive |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 09:54 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Well, I'm glad Clinton solved everything. There must be nothing more to do |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:06 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. You got caught in a mistake or a lie you choose |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:29 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. You didn't click on the link, did you? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:35 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. If it isn't done by November |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:53 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. The lame-duck session of Congress meets in December. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 11:00 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. there is so way this will be passed by a lame duck Congress |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 11:42 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. But, but, but, I thought this was politically easy |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 06:21 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. It is based on the assumption that some of our defeated members will respect the outcome on an |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:52 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. That was a cool episode on west wing, |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 02:08 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. I am bookmarking this thread and will bring it up again in December. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 03:11 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. What if DADT is repealed before then? |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 03:36 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Anything is possible, I suppose, but that is not likely, |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 04:15 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Right, not until December. What's the source on that again? |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 04:33 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Then bully for you! |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 01:00 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Given our near certain losses in the midterms |
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Hutzpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 01:28 PM Response to Reply #31 |
41. You posted a link that is making |
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muffin1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 01:42 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Gay rights is a complicated issue. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 07:24 PM Response to Reply #41 |
72. I hate it when people ignore history. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 12:18 AM Response to Reply #41 |
80. In their defense, waiting until after November drastically reduces the chance of passage |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
15. I agree with most of what you say...... |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
25. I'm not sure I get the Truman reference. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 01:39 AM Response to Original message |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
38. Don't underestimate how far-right this country is going |
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muffin1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 01:47 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. Not on DADT. |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
39. I think that's a very important point: |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
46. It was always ever thus. Like with ACT-UP. |
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Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
51. Actually, history and culture changed. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 02:09 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Deleted message |
dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 05:41 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. the OP has consistently honored Clinton for his work on this |
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Lord Helmet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:15 AM Response to Reply #54 |
82. "Clinton for all his faults was a consistent advocate for our issues who made some mistakes." |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 06:25 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. You have to believe Shrum which I don't |
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Lord Helmet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 09:43 PM Response to Reply #84 |
88. I thought the entire argument was compelling. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 04:29 AM Response to Reply #88 |
90. I read the whole thing |
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Lord Helmet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 09:05 AM Response to Reply #90 |
91. John Aravosis is a reliable journalist and it's disingenuous to throw him under the bus |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 10:05 AM Response to Reply #91 |
92. I am not saying he isn't |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 08:38 AM Response to Reply #51 |
81. +1 |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
57. No one has given GLBT folk anything |
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fortyfeetunder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
73. Just an observation -- why DADT is not repealed yet. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 10:37 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Deleted message |
fortyfeetunder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 11:46 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. You're accusing me of hating gays? |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 11:52 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. No, s/he's just playing the martyr, implying that those mean ole homos |
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burning rain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
76. Good comparison between Clinton & Obama eras. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
79. Politicians don't hand anybody their civil rights |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
83. All of that hard work would have still be culminated under President McCain, right? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 06:27 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Name one thing that Obama has done that Clinton didn't |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 06:42 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. Did Clinton expand medical rights to same sex couples? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 07:22 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. in fairness Obama did do that |
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