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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 05:02 PM Original message |
Specter is too old to campaign effectively. Sestak has the best chance of holding the seat. |
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Ernesto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
1. works for me nt |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
2. Whatever I have to do to get Sestak in that seat. I'm in Maryland but will gladly |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 05:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. What do you like about Sestak? I don't trust either of them... |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 05:41 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Sestak is no liberal, sadly. But Specter is a self-serving idiot. Don't trust him. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 05:52 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. I just hope we can count on Sestak to show up for votes! nt |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 05:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. True dat. n/t |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 06:00 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. you do realize his Dad was in the hospital for a few months before he passed away? |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 06:02 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Thanks for the info - the environment is my top issue and that does matter! nt |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 06:09 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. glad to hear it |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 05:52 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. What I like about Sestak |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 05:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Thanks - great to know! :) |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
3. I saw him in person the other day and he was in fine shape. I wouldn't go the age route if I were |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 05:37 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. yeah, i wasn't too impressed with Sestak in his tv appearances |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 06:07 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. there's a couple things Sestak needs to sharpen up |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 06:48 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. actually it's the substance part which i find lacking with Sestak |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 07:30 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Who is going to help him? The Republicans that have been supporting him are going to be gone. |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 07:50 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. the dem establishment will back the primary winner |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:41 PM Response to Reply #34 |
51. Not necessarily. And, the support he receives will be mediocre. |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:48 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. In your previous post you said '77% of Democrats', NOT |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:49 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. And we know Rendell's machine is twisting arms (and worse) for Specter |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:59 PM Response to Reply #58 |
69. Rendell doesn't have to twist arms. Rendell can vouch for Senator Specter's |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:18 PM Response to Reply #69 |
81. Whether or not there is a 'need' to, it is happening |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:31 PM Response to Reply #81 |
89. Says who? Sestak? Oh and don't make me laugh. I was born and raised in Philly. |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:35 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. Sestak isn't saying it, people in Philly I talk to are saying it. |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 07:20 PM Response to Reply #10 |
26. That is a concern of mines and also, that the primary has not been about what really is important. |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 05:46 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. You sure seem to have me pegged (comically wrong, but at least you're self-assured.) |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:33 PM Response to Reply #12 |
49. Well I saw Sestak on TV yesterday and I though he looked like he was holding something back |
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dumpdabaggers (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
4. I fully agree. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 05:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
5. I bet you aren't from PA. n/t |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 05:51 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. You are so smart |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
7. If he does manage to get re-elected, I'm pretty sure its his last term. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
8. Tweety did a good job reminding us of his presidential and S. Court votes. nt |
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blue neen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Those votes keep running though my mind, |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 07:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
24. So, he was a Republican than. And, that shows loyalty to his party he was associated with. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 07:17 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Sorry, but choosing to be a Republican for decades shows a giant lack of judgment. nt |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 07:27 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Sorry, I disagree. My parents were both Republicans for years. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 07:34 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. The Republican party has been anti-environment, anti-women's rights, anti-civil rights... |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 07:40 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. and, Specter has always been for women's rights, the environment and civil rights. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 07:43 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Check out his record... |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:36 PM Response to Reply #33 |
50. Who Sestak? He hasn't voted on that much over his four years. |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:45 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. Project Vote Smart |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:05 PM Response to Reply #55 |
73. I don't like some of Sestak's votes and he hasn't really had to make any tough votes. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:03 AM Response to Reply #73 |
122. I meant for you to check out Specter's record... |
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uberblonde (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:36 PM Response to Reply #50 |
93. Even if it was... |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:52 PM Response to Reply #93 |
106. Sestak immediately authored a bill to end the war in Iraq |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:23 PM Response to Reply #93 |
115. The ACLU begs to differ with you. They gave Congressman Sestak |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:30 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. For those interested in an issue-by-issues comparison |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 07:56 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. No, he hasn't |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 07:57 PM Response to Reply #32 |
41. NARAL, NOW, and Sierra Club endorsed Sestak |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:45 PM Response to Reply #41 |
54. I use to be a member of NARAL, and NOW, many years ago. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:46 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. I don't really care how much those organizations mean to you. They mean |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:54 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. Members of NOW and NARAL of PA are not strong enough nor do they have enough members to really |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:03 PM Response to Reply #64 |
71. Many older residents have a positive opinion of them also. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:06 AM Response to Reply #54 |
123. You keep talking about what Specter does for the people of PA... |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:16 PM Response to Reply #32 |
45. As MH1 has pointed out, The Sierra Club, the National Organization for |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:50 PM Response to Reply #45 |
59. The Sierra club can do what they want. They are the only group you mentioned that I care about |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:51 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Once in a while the newspaper endorsements get it wrong. |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:55 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. All of them except for Scaife's paper, The Tribune Review? n/t |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:57 PM Original message |
What about the repuke owned Inky? That gives Santorum column space? |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
72. Oh, please. Santorum needs a job and it is a fair and balanced paper that presents |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:01 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. Be careful. The light voters have to follow is from more than one |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:09 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. I don't. It will all be in the end game and it will depend on turn out. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:13 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. One or the other of them will be smiling next Tuesday night. |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:26 PM Response to Reply #77 |
86. Blah, Blah, Blah. All your polling data comes from the same sources. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:44 PM Response to Reply #86 |
102. No, it doesn't, as you know. And you're mistaken on the |
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uberblonde (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:39 PM Response to Reply #60 |
95. Yeah, you and Pat Toomey. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:43 PM Response to Reply #95 |
99. The polling among Pennsylvanians says different, uberblonde. |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:43 PM Response to Reply #95 |
100. Do you have links for that theory? |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:54 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Does Specter's lousy environmental record not mean anything to you? |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:56 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. Well, Kerry's bill just might be bipartisan enough to win the vote of Specter. n/t |
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AlinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 07:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
40. A pollster said the other day that many are driven to vote for Sestak because they are suspicious |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:52 PM Response to Reply #40 |
61. Yes, so. This is the what Sestak has based his entire campaign on. |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:56 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. Yeah, Thomas, Alito, Scalia, Roberts |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:12 PM Response to Reply #66 |
75. Party votes and for balance on the court. I don't see anything wrong in this. |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:16 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. Wow. You support Thomas, Scalia, Alito, and Roberts? |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:37 PM Response to Reply #40 |
94. I am bored with this. All you Sestak supporters talk among yourself and |
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uberblonde (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:40 PM Response to Reply #40 |
96. That's because Toomey just started running his ads. |
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krawhitham (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
28. Specter can win the general while Sestak can not |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 07:34 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Exactly. And, Specter will have the massive Democratic machine behind him. |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 07:55 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. Sestak will have that same machine |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:30 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. Nope, Clinton did not thumb her nose at the party and try to claim there were insider games going on |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:41 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. So you go with the "sit down and shut up" line of the party? |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:44 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. The Dems WILL back Sestak if he wins |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:57 PM Response to Reply #53 |
68. Agree. Democrats in Pennsylvania are not going to sit the general |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:18 PM Response to Reply #68 |
80. I said, they will provide support, but it will be mediocre, because the idea of him losing the |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:19 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. And several posters have indicated that you are wrong about the general, |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:28 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. And, do they have inside info like I do? Or are they just expressing their opinion. n/t |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:36 PM Response to Reply #87 |
92. where is your inside info? you claim that, but never have links. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:52 PM Response to Reply #87 |
107. Well, you have one slice of experience. Others appear to have other, |
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uberblonde (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:44 PM Response to Reply #48 |
101. Not to mention how he screwed Obama... |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 07:53 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. Why do you say that? |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 07:54 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. Actually, Sestak is polling better against Toomey than Specter |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:35 PM Response to Reply #37 |
91. Rassmusen is a repub poll and their polling always is wrong. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:32 PM Response to Reply #91 |
118. Agree that Ras leans right but their Pennsylvania polling over the last |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:15 PM Response to Reply #28 |
44. Can you back that up with any polls? |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:17 PM Response to Reply #28 |
46. Current polling indicate that the reverse is true -- |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
35. He's really gone downhill since the fitrst polls showing Toomey would clobber him in the GOP primary |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
42. knr! Fugg Specter. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
43. Their ages notwithstanding, I'm rooting for Joe. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
47. Sphincter is going down, finally. Good riddance, too. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:53 PM Response to Reply #47 |
62. Ain't that the truth |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:23 PM Response to Reply #47 |
85. Well not living in PA I would like to know how the hell you would know anything about the man |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:40 PM Response to Reply #85 |
97. unless he sends Sestak lots of money to run TV ads |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:42 PM Response to Reply #85 |
98. There's this thing called the Internet and this other thing called TV .... |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:15 PM Response to Reply #85 |
113. But Pennsylvania Senators' votes affect the lives of all U.S. citizens. |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
76. Both are matching up better against Toomey per this poll: |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:15 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. HI, Jennicut. On Toomey -- yes, he's something of a |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:22 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. He needs to be avoided at all costs. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:02 PM Response to Reply #84 |
112. Toomey is bonkers on a good day and this Dracula-in-a-suit ogre |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:21 PM Response to Reply #76 |
83. This poll is not reliable-period. And, Sestak does not have a chance in hell against Toomey. |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:29 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. I am looking for more polls. All I have is Rasmussen. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:45 PM Response to Reply #83 |
103. Not sure about Hell, but in Pennsylvania, Sestak runs closer than Arlen |
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uberblonde (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:46 PM Response to Reply #76 |
104. Sestak was NOT always a Dem. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:51 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. But we know that. We also know that Arlen Specter is a |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:54 PM Response to Reply #104 |
108. Sestak worked for Clinton in the 90's. |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:54 PM Response to Reply #104 |
109. You are correct. Sestak was an independent and then became a Dem in 2006. |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:55 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. Sestak worked for Clinton in the 90's. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:57 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Agree. IN that Project Vote Smart is a key stat. The ACLU in 2007 gave |
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AlinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 06:17 AM Response to Reply #109 |
121. Please see post 120. |
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AlinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 06:09 AM Response to Reply #104 |
120. He was in the Navy as an Admiral until 2005 and at that rank (as Army Generals do), |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
114. Specter, speaking to Allegheny County Democrats, thanks Allegheny Republicans |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
117. This is a good contrast page for Sestak vs. Specter: |
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ProgressOnTheMove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 03:40 AM Response to Original message |
119. I at first felt a bit sorry for Specter facing all those tea partiers, but Sestak is the way to go. |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
124. sestak comes across as an smarmy, oozy, oily used car salesman to me |
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