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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 06:29 PM
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How Obama Makes Decisions
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/05/12/how_obama_makes_decisions.html


May 12, 2010

How Obama Makes Decisions


The New York Times reviews Jonathan Alter's book The Promise and says that despite the saturated media coverage of President Obama's first year in office the book "actually does give us a new perspective on the 44th president by providing a detailed look at his decision-making process on issues like health care and the Afghanistan war, and a keen sense of what it's like to work in his White House, day by day."

Obama has a "methodical approach to policy making, which favors 'logic chains' and 'decision trees,' and which stands in nearly direct opposition to George W. Bush's gut calls and distaste for process."

Review here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/13/books/13book.html?src=twt&twt=nytimes
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 06:32 PM
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1. AKA Chess. nt
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 06:52 PM
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2. No, no, no! He carefully works out what would make this board...
...happy, and does the opposite.

Out of spite. And to make Oregone sad.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 06:59 PM
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3. rofl and zap!
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 07:05 PM
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4. "Decision Trees" Wow, that man is anal.
Must be one of those organized types. I have never used a decision tree in my life. But I like that Obama uses them.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 07:07 PM
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troubledamerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 10:06 PM
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6. LIES.
More nonsense. Not about Obama. About the sly and surreptitious reinforcement of the "Bush = Decider" mythos.

Bush was not making decisions. Rove, Cheney, and others made the decisions.

For indirect proof, why do you think Rove named Bush's new book "Decision Points"?

To reinforce the MYTH that Bush = Decider. If I'm wrong, then why do they continue to make attempts to reinforce his "Decider" image?

Because he wasn't.
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 10:15 PM
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7. TIME - "The Blink Presidency" Re Bush - He Decided Things Like An Adolecent with ADD
Here is a positive puff piece on Bush, which is nonetheless disconcerting. There is no thought process whatsover to Bush. He probably just watches the Fox News talking points, and calls it policy.

http://www.time.com/time/columnist/klein/article/0,9565,1029809,00.html


It should come as no great revelation that George W. Bush is a wantonly decisive President. He decides Ariel Sharon is good and Yasser Arafat is evil, even though seasoned diplomats tell him it is not wise to make such sweeping judgments. He decides that Social Security needs to be transformed and that private investment accounts are the way to do it, even though the experts say there is no great crisis and his way won't solve anything. He decides to invade Iraq, with minimal contingency planning. He decides to cut taxes drastically and then to spend an outlandish sum on a Medicare prescription-drug benefit. His presidency has been exhilarating and nerve-racking, imprudent and visionary—and now we learn that it is another thing as well: it is a prime example of the latest fad.

Bush is the ultimate "Blink" President, to use author Malcolm Gladwell's catchy term, and recent title, for instantaneous, subconscious decision making. The slogan on Gladwell's book jacket—"Don't Think—Blink!"—is a perfect mantra for an attention- deficit-disordered society, and an apt description of the electric jolt Bush has brought to politics and policy. It certainly was the subtext of the 2004 presidential campaign: Kerry's thinking seemed tortured, paralytic; Bush's blinking seemed strong and decisive.

But there are problems. "We don't know where our first impressions come from or precisely what they mean, so we don't always understand their fragility," writes Gladwell, who is way too smart to be a cheerleader for the immediate. Gladwell argues that blinking is best when it is reinforced by a lifetime of study and expertise. Bush's blinks come in two basic varieties: judgments about people and about broad policy. Bush may be a master at judging people—though one wonders what he saw in Vladimir Putin's soul—but he hasn't spent much time learning the intricacies of getting a bill through Congress or thinking about how the pieces of the puzzle might fit together in the Middle East after the invasion of Iraq. There is rarely any thought of how a blink will be carried out, or the contradictory impact that his blinks might have on one another. David Kuo, a former deputy director of the President's Office of Faith- Based and Community Initiatives, argued last week on the Beliefnet website that the President had blinked at the well-publicized faith-based antipoverty initiative and then forgotten it. Kuo, who is a friend of mine and truly believes in the President's commitment to the policy, remains mystified by the disconnect between passion and action. Blinks are ephemeral; policy is distressingly concrete.

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troubledamerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 10:28 PM
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10. Missed my point. Do you really believe that BUSH
crafted his legislative agenda, (for example) such as the 2005 timing & policy proposals of privatizing Social Security?

Bush can't even explain Social Security, let alone DECIDE to craft a policy proposal.

Bush didn't make "BLINK" decisions. Look at the My Pet Goat video. Bush was a FRONTMAN and nothing more.
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 10:34 PM
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11. Of course not. But, Bush was President...
Edited on Wed May-12-10 10:34 PM by TomCADem
He did not develop squat. He did not understand squat. But, he was nominally making the decisions. Haven't you ever had a boss who was similar? They are still the boss, but they just nod their head, and occasionally say something inane to show they are the boss. Think of the boss in Dilbert.

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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 10:18 PM
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8. See? At no point am I consulted!
Pfffft...he'll be a one termer for sure!

;)
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 10:18 PM
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9. Decision trees are useful, but they have their limitations
Indeed, they can be and sometimes are the bane of the technocrat.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 01:47 PM
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12. K & R!
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 02:43 PM
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13. He needs a new method...
Miranda rights, offshore drilling, marijuana, gay marriage...
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 03:58 PM
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14. Invites "stakeholders" to tell him how they want shit to go and makes it happen
while pretending he is holding "special interests" accountable.

Simple.
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VMI Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 04:39 PM
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15. In the case of gay marriage, reads his Bible.
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