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nmbluesky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:41 PM
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Taliban Says It Will Target Names Exposed by WikiLeaks
The U.S. military has already accused WikiLeaks of having "the blood of some young soldier or that of an Afghan family" on its hands after leaking 92,000 classified documents. The Taliban has now confirmed it is poring through the documents, and intends to hunt down and punish any suspected spies named.
Britain's Channel 4 News interviewed a Taliban spokesperson named Zabihullah Mujahid by telephone. "We are studying the report," he said, referring to the documents, available online, some containing the names, tribes, and family information of Afghan informants.
Related: Hacker on Why He Turned in Alleged Wikileaks Source »
"We knew about the spies and people who collaborate with U.S. forces," he continued. "We will investigate through our own secret service whether the people mentioned are really spies working for the U.S. If they are U.S. spies, then we know how to punish them."

The Taliban has recently pursued a policy of intimidating those who cooperate with the NATO forces in an attempt to undermine efforts at governance. Many local officials have been killed, and most have been threatened. The militant group is known to execute informants, reports Channel 4, by hanging, beheading, and shooting. It has even, on one recent occasion, strapped "two alleged traitors to explosives before detonating them in public."
Defense Secretary Robert Gates and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Adm. Mike Mullen condemned WikiLeaks and its founder Julian Assange yesterday. "Mr. Assange can say whatever he likes about the greater good he thinks he and his source are doing," Mullen said, according to Reuters. "But the truth is they might already have on their hands the blood of some young soldier or that of an Afghan family."
Gates told reporters that trust between the Afghan people and the U.S. military had been breached. "I spent most of my life in the intelligence business, where the sacrosanct principle is protecting your sources," he said. "It seems to me that, as a result of this massive breach of security, we have considerable repair work to do in terms of reassuring people and rebuilding trust, because they clearly—people are going to feel at risk."

Many media organizations have avoided linking to the WikiLeaks site and have redacted information in their reports. But Mujahid told Channel 4 that the Taliban had begun investigating the leaked information after being alerted by news stories.
http://www.newsweek.com/2010/07/30/taliban-says-it-will-target-names-exposed-by-wikileaks.html
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:43 PM
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1. Uh oh, the Assange Fan Club will be here to tell you
that you're a Dick Cheney clone.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:45 PM
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2. What a farce. None of those names are real. The CIA gives fake names .............
to informants to help protect their identity just in case something like this happens (names leaked).

They'll be chasing names that don't exist.

This is just the Pentagon's and administration's way of getting public favor on their side and a chance to look tough.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 04:32 PM
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16. Just to be clear...
You believe that the Taliban is putting out bogus information in an effort to make Obama look good and prolong the war in Afghanistan?

That the Taliban and the Obama Administration are cooperating on this issue?
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 05:21 PM
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17. I suggested no such thing about the Taliban. I said that they would .............
be chasing ghosts.

On the other hand, the Obama administration is using this to put on a tough face and make it look to the Grumpy Old People that he is taking a tough stand and protecting our military.

It's a total joke to thinking people that this "document dump" will have any real impact on the "war on terror".

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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:48 PM
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3. But half of them are probably Taliban using the troops to knock off warlords
Its a chaotic insurgency. Thats how this shit goes down--in a war, or even on the street.
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:56 PM
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4. Got it, no worries about the other half who are helping us getting whacked.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 07:03 PM
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5. Those might just be shopkeepers knocking off the asshole up the street
I mean, we have have no proof these people were real, their names are real, or the information they provided was even meant to help anyone but themselves.

The only thing we know, is that by being there, we created the situation directly that is leading to these names being published, and potentially putting people in danger.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 07:05 PM
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6. Shhhhh, you're using logic and critical thought to arrive at an
educated and well thought-out conclusion.

The rah-rah squad doesn't want to hear it.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 07:09 PM
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7. What a load of hooey!
The fact is that the best way to keep American soldiers from being killed in Afghanistan is to bring them home and prevent them from being placed in wars with no practical or security purpose in the future. In regard to Afghan families that might be targeted, one wonders whether the Taliban has racked up as many civilian kills as the NATO forces have with their drone missiles and air strikes on wedding parties etc.

Even after 8 years of fighting in Afghanistan there is still no coherent explanation as to why we are continuing to fight and die chasing AFGHANIS around THEIR country.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 07:18 PM
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8. taliban says....it will target names not exposed by wikileaks nt
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 07:39 PM
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9. Afghanistan is another Viet-Nam except lasting longer n/t
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Sheepshank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 08:51 PM
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10. shaking my head at all those posts on other threads
yammering about how nothing has happened yet therefore releasing names and other identifying info is no big deal.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 09:22 PM
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18. I know I didn't say anything wouldn't happen. I expect some of these folks will die horribly
some of which this will have no bearing on whatsoever and they were going to get it for stuff we aren't a part of others because the word got out from other sources, and some from this source.

I call it collateral damage.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 08:52 PM
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11. The Taliban's largely blowing smoke--they do that.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 03:23 PM
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14. Yup. I thought these names were protected and are fake to begin with.
Good luck finding out the real names.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:21 PM
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12. The Taliban change tribal alliances after every other falafel ingested
Besides, 90% of the Taliban can't even fucking read! And they're jacked up on ganja and opium...

What a bunch of shit.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 02:07 PM
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20. Dude, do you know what "Taliban" means?
Just curious.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 03:11 PM
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13. Taliban agrees to use pentagon disinformation to scare shitless
anyone who is currently providing information to our military.

Why wouldn't they go along with this? What a freaking gold mine the pentagon handed them.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 04:12 PM
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15. I don't doubt that at all.
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whoknu Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 04:50 PM
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19. Or maybe it's the Pentagon pretending that the Taliban said that
Edited on Sun Aug-01-10 04:50 PM by whoknu
Psy-ops, as part of an anti-Assange campaign.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 02:08 PM
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21. They parachuted a fluent pashto speaker in ahead of a BBC reporter?
And insinuated him into the area enough to fool the reporter?

If they could do that kind of stuff we would have caught Bin Ladin already.
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