Calling all progressives dissing Obama: pass this on to your friends

[zulchzulu]

This is the preamble:

Obama is not perfect.

Obama said many times that he is not perfect.

Now for the main part:

We live in a autocratic plutocracy that has not heeded the warnings from President Eisenhower about the overreaching of the military industrial complex.

We get our news and political information from multinational corporate interests linked with and funded by the military industrial complex.

We will never know the real truth behind the real motives of those who were signatories of the Project For A New American Century's "Rebuilding America's Defenses" (PDF) and the mentioning of the need for a new "Pearl Harbor-type event".

When a President is elected and goes to Washington DC, a whole World of multiple levels of lobbyists and special interests mostly related to Wall Street, the military industrial complex, the pharmaceutical industry, the banking industry and other interests with wealth and assets beyond most people's imagination are waiting with sharp knives, secret investigation gumshoes and other lurking teams of lawyers, spies, prostitutes, goons and hangers-on waiting for the first instance to make a name for their career with a "lead", a "gotcha moment", a YouTube viral video and the millions of dollars from spinoffs from book and movie sales from their accidental story.

Working with Republicans in a "bipartisan" manner is really actually an attempt to show the mainstream media, an arm of the military industrial complex, that the puppet strings "appear" to be in place.

If a President doesn't "play nice", they get shot like JFK.

Either that or they get the CIA to work in the background to make Republicans appear strong like when the CIA handled the Iran hostage crisis behind the scenes in 1979 so that Reagan, a stooge of the military industrial complex, could magically have the American hostages released on his Inauguration Day.

So what does this mean now?

Of course, there are those who think "Obama hasn't done anything". And there are others that think "Obama is weak". These people would have wanted to frogmarch past Presidents like FDR because his agenda was not immediate when he was President.

On the issue about getting laws passed... it's more complicated than a speech. Nearly all of the people I know who still support Obama knew the difference between inspirational speeches and the reality of actually governing and its limitations.

What's at stake?

Certainly, when I supported Obama starting in 2007, I knew that WHEN he became President, he would be faced with the powers of Washington DC when he gains his presidential journey. Considering the possibility of McCain/Palin as gaining power, it was an obvious no-brainer.

Finally, there is absolutely nothing wrong with questioning ANY President and being vigilant with the issues you find important.

What's at stake in this historical time's two-party system is that we know the difference between Republicans and Democrats, if only on social issues. There is a huge difference.

At this time, we need to all find what we agree on and work on what we disagree on while not allowing those, like the Republican Party, to divide us and gain more. There is a huge difference between parties and not thinking so is purely an act of ignorance.

As the saying goes:
"All of us are smarter than one of us."

[Pholus]

1. I hear what you're saying.

And my preamble is that my opinion doesn't matter more than a fart in a whirlwind.

But here is the main body:

I'd LOVE to believe that this was all some part of a grand plan to prove to the mainstream media who was the country's best interests at heart.

The problem is that if true, it's like a Dennis Miller joke -- so tangential that you have to do a lot of work to get at why it's relevant.

Most people will simply not GET IT if that is the actual plan.



And yes, I'll vote to keep him in office but sadly it is a vote for the lesser of two evils not because I'm thrilled.

[zulchzulu]

2. +1

Mentioning the weakness of Dennis Miller jokes is profound.

[Pholus]

4. I'm so old I remember when he used to be funny... ;)

[hlthe2b]

5. +1

Blind trust is what we are left with it seems. But, what the hell are our options? Primary challenges assure the RETHUGS win.

[ibegurpard]

3. so basically you're saying that you're either WITH them or you go ALONG with them

and the difference is?

[ampad]

6. Oh boy

Sorry, most of the people I know support this president. The ones who do not never did in the first place. I got some repubs on my husband's side of the family but I will not even waste my time with them. Outside of DU and my republican in-laws I do not see the anger.

[Pholus]

7. About "support"

Since I don't like what is happening it seems I never supported the president in the first place.

Can I have my donations and volunteer time back please? I was apparently only kidding.

Meh.

[AndrewP]

8. Yeah, no crap about that!

I'm not all that happy with the President's pre-emptive concession style, so I apparently never donated or voted for him! Who knew?

[RandomKoolzip]

9. One thing about this post:

If a President doesn't "play nice", they get shot like JFK.

It's strange to see this meme coming from those DEFENDING Obama. It makes him look weak and undermines any attempt at defending him. I mean, if this were true and the only reason why he won't assist in passing legislation that actually helps working people is that he's afraid for his life, then why doesn't he "pull an Assange" and be as public as possible about that possibility, thereby mitigating the possibility of a scot-free assassination?

[cyr330]

10. Good Point

And also, if he's afraid of being shot, perhaps he never should have run for president in the 1st place?

[PVnRT]

11. Also, when did Bush ever "play nice"?

[TBF]

12. "we know the difference between Republicans and Democrats, if only on social issues"

Well at least y'all are finally admitting there are no differences on economic issues. I guess that's a step in the right direction.

[political_Dem]

13. Politics is an intricate dance. But some folks don't care because they want easy solutions.

Not only that, they want things yesterday. It's not enough to know that Mr. Obama takes less vacation days than other POTUSes. It is because he treats his position as one of dignity and understatement that others don't "see" what he has done.

But, one thing emerges from this entire phenomena: the protests says more about the people than it does about the issues they say to push in front of the Administration. They might say they are not fooled anymore, but in the outside world the rest of the Dems
are flabbergasted.

I'd have to agree that a lot of the Dems in real life I know also are very supportive of the POTUS. If anything, they are rather sickened by the divisiveness and the ugliness hurled at the President. They also expect the differences in the party to be ironed out civilly. :(