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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:30 PM Original message |
Obama *again* parrots Republican lie on Social Security |
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sasha031 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
1. yes, I heard that, it's very disturbing |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
2. Back then the life expectancy was less than the age of retirement. |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:38 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. But updates in the 1980s adjusted for this |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:42 PM Original message |
Other question is what was FDR expecting from this program. |
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sasha031 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. First, Social Security isn’t a direct cause of the federal budget deficit |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 05:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. Social security is invested in non negotiable bonds held in a vault in some basement. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 06:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
23. That is pure unmitigated horseshit. Life expectancy FROM BIRTH was much lower-- |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
3. Wrong |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. First off, where does it state 'widows and orphans' |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:45 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Correct. |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:49 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. I think you are correct about FDR's intent. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:45 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Thank you! The point is it was incremental. nt |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
4. Roosevelt opened a door, a little at a time. |
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bullwinkle428 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
5. A helpful capsule history for some... |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
8. You should look at actual history instead of Wikipedia... |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:46 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. That's actually what I used as a source |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:48 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. You cherry picked... |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:54 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Indeed. n/t |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 09:50 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. What's incomplete about it? |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
12. Only widows and orphans? If I am not mistaken it also covered the |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
14. I had a DUer tell me a couple weeks ago if you have any kind |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
17. Survivor Benefits (aka widows & orphans) were added in 1939 |
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great white snark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
19. How is this a Republican lie? |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 06:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Yep... |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
21. More disingenuity - "predictable attack of 'those on the Left'" |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
24. Thats not the only Republican BIG LIE Obama has been parroting lately. |
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otohara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 11:01 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Double Dip Recession - FEAR |
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StarsInHerHair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 01:02 AM Response to Original message |
26. Obama has completely internalized Right Wing Worldview, obvious now |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
28. What Is His Problem Anyway? |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 06:50 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. He probably isn't planning on a re-election bid so no need in switching to his real party. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
29. K&R (n/t) |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
30. How exactly is his "parroting" what is actually a NON-LIE |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 06:06 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Obama agrees with his man Simpson that SS was not started for retirees |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 06:15 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. O.k. So, even if he is wrong |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 06:20 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Oh, plenty of evidence |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 09:21 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Still not getting the "ill intent towards Social Security" vibe |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
35. good post, too late to rec unfortunately |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
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