Sherrod Brown just said on CNN that DADT repeal is NOT dead.

[jenmito]

Harry Reid can and will bring it up again after the tax bill has been voted on. This was an attempt to bypass that BS, but it didn't work. They were short 2 votes, and we'll have them-Brown and Murkowski, and probably more.

[Beetwasher]

1. Good News!

n/t

[jenmito]

4. Yes, it sure is! Brooke Baldwin said to Brown, "So I guess the repeal is DOA, right?" That's when

he said what he said in my OP.

[justiceischeap]

2. I'm sure LGBT military feel really good about being used as political pawns (eom)

[jenmito]

10. I'm sure they don't-and that includes anger at the Dems. who are not voting for the

tax bill in the name of "purity."

[okieinpain]

26. must people don't mind using the 98% for political pawns. why

should LGBT be any different (and why do we call them that, what's wrong with non-straight).

[justiceischeap]

37. Non-straight? Really?

I much rather prefer to call heterosexuals non-gay.

[okieinpain]

42. hey that works for me too, just never understood why i needed

to know if someone was transgendered or bi.

[dennis4868]

3. I thought they were short 3 votes...

the new dem senator voted against repeal for whatever crazy reason.

[jenmito]

8. Harry Reid voted against it so that he can bring it up again. It's procedural. n/t

[no limit]

11. Wait, what? Harry Reid voted against repealing DADT?

WTF? When we just needed 2 more votes?

[jenmito]

17. That's how it works. If he voted FOR it, he couldn't bring it up again. n/t

[druidity33]

22. he needed to...

in order to bring it up again for a vote. Really, inform yourself...

:)

[Uzybone]

39. Isn't this the 2nd time he has done this for DADT

and at least the 10th time for other votes that the GOP has blocked?

You'd think "informed" DUers would know why he had to vote no by now.

[badtoworse]

27. Under Senate rules, ...

a motion to reconsider can only be made by someone who voted with the prevailing side. Had he voted for cloture, he would not be able to make such a motion.

[Rhiannon12866]

28. Thanks!

:hi:

[no limit]

48. But what I don't understand is if he only needed 2 more votes

he had no way to find one more senator that would vote for this? And if that's the case why did they even bring this to the floor?

Thanks for your explaination by the way.

[Ter]

55. It failed by three

His vote was one. He would have to convince two others.

[no limit]

56. One was Blanche Lincoln who didn't know the vote was taking place

since Reid caught everyone by suprise. She was a yes vote.

So he needed only one more vote.

[Ter]

54. How many times can he do this?

n/t

[dennis4868]

5. not good to be today a ....

gay 911 responder who wants to serve opently in the military...

[Clio the Leo]

6. He also thinks Obama has 60 votes in the Senate to pass a tax hike on the rich.

grrrrr

[DrToast]

18. Wait, what?

Were you being sarcastic?

[geek tragedy]

33. Brown said that the Democrats were for certain

going to force the Republicans to cave on UI extensions.

[jenmito]

25. That's a GOOD thintg-so they can get back to THIS bill and others. n/t

[Imajika]

7. Time is running out fast...

If this tax cut "deal" debate doesn't get resolved soon, there will be no time for the days upon days of debate the Republicans are demanding in exchange for yes votes. The time remaining in the this lame duck Congress is fast disappearing.

[jenmito]

16. Sherrod Brown said they should stay in session 'til it's done. And this is

a reason why the tax cut deal DOES need to be done soon-and WILL be done soon. John Harwood reported today that DADT repeal has a good chance of getting done.

[Imajika]

29. Yeah, but Sherrod Brown OPPOSES the tax deal...

...last I checked.

Your basically depending on Sherrod Brown to hurry up the tax deal so we can get to a standalone DADT, yet Sherrod Brown opposes the tax deal and intends to try to stop it. Opposing the tax deal gums up the works for everything else - including DADT, DREAM, START, etc.

[jenmito]

34. There are enough Repubs. who will support the tax deal. n/t

[Imajika]

36. Well, yes, I agree with that...n/t

[JackBeck]

9. Reid said toward the end of his speech, before the voting began,

that this was just 1 of three ways he would try for passage.

[jenmito]

12. Yup, I saw that. n/t

[David Zephyr]

13. If there's "time" and Robert Gates said he doubted there would be.

I don't see this happening now. I just don't.

[jenmito]

24. Gates didn't know about Lieberman's determination on this. n/t

[David Zephyr]

49. Actually he did.

This is all rehearsed drama down to Senator Lincoln's dentist excuse.

[jenmito]

52. Got a link? Or is this your conspiracy theory?

[David Zephyr]

53. It is you who made the silly assertion that Gates & Lieberman aren't communicating on this issue.

Show me that link.

[pnwmom]

14. Olympia Snowe voted against it too.

[DrToast]

19. All signs point to her going "teabagger" to avoid a primary in 2012.*

*

[jenmito]

20. They won't need her.

[d_b]

31. i wish stephen king would run against her

;D

[CakeGrrl]

15. Buckle up!

[jenmito]

21. Collins and Lieberman will be holding a news conference soon. n/t

[dave29]

30. yeah, no thanks, I'll pass

Lieberman and Collins will both slam Reid. I was giving Joe the benefit of the doubt yesterday. But I'm done with his Shenanigans, at least for today

[AlinPA]

47. Lieberman and Collins, peas in a pod. Slimy peas in a pod. Don't trust either of those republicans.

[geek tragedy]

23. Kick that ball again, Charlie Brown! nt

[jenmito]

32. Susan Collins is talking now.

[AlinPA]

46. A dirty, lying republican.

[racaulk]

35. And the roller coaster ride continues...

:eyes:

[Uzybone]

38. Sherrod Brown seems to say a lot of things on CNN

sometimes he talks as if he has 59 votes in his pocket.

That said; I love the guy.

[terrya]

40. My newly elected fuckwad Senator, Mark Kirk, voted against it.

Nevertheless, I'll keep calling him.

[rosesaylavee]

45. Oh he did, did he...

I too will continue calling him.

[golfguru]

41. How can that be when more repugs will be in office in January?

[AlinPA]

43. It is dead. Brown voted no. Murkoski voted no. Collins is a no. It's over. Why in the hell

would any republican vote for anything supported by the President or Democrats in Congress? It will never happen. Never.

[AlinPA]

44. ?? Brown (R) voted no , what, an hour ago? Now you say he would vote for it?

[jenmito]

57. YES! Scott Brown, Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins (again) all said they will vote yes

AFTER the tax bill has been taken care of.

[golfguru]

58. Tax bill will get done followed by DADT repeal.

Have patience.

[jenmito]

59. I agree.

The person I was responding to doesn't seem to believe it.

[totodeinhere]

50. It will not have a chance until the tax compromise bill passes both the Senate and the House.

That's what Mitch McConnell said today. So if the Dems in the House don't change their mind and vote for the tax cut bill that included tax cuts for the rich, DADT is dead.

[Major Hogwash]

51. So, now the Rethuglicans are holding the entire country hostage!!

"We want that bill passed first, or we aren't going to let you vote on this bill now."

Jesus, you talk about a screwed up system.
No fucking company in the world could operate this way and not go bankrupt!!