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chieftain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 07:55 PM
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A whole lot of this anger against Obama is misdirected.
Congressional Democrats have been a disaster in so many ways.This aggregation of House Blue Dogs, Evan Bayhs, Ben Nelsons, Mary Landrieus et. al. have been played for fools by the likes of Grassley and Collins. Even some our better Senators are so enamored with their outmoded prerogatives, that their allegiance to a tradition of the filibuster is more important than passing progressive legislation. Why on earth would anyone think that the group that didn't have the courage to vote on the tax bill before the mid-terms would develop a spine in the lame duck session.If the Democrats defeat this plan, we will be held responsible for both the tax hikes and the cut-off of unemployment benefits. Then in January Boehner and company will reinstate the tax cuts and offer substantially reduced unemployment coverage.And count on the Corporate media to report it exactly this way.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 07:57 PM
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1. sorry repubs cannot reinstate tax cuts without senate and obama approval. nt
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 08:01 PM
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2. You were correct up to "Obama approval"
Congress holds the purse strings.
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Creative Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 08:07 PM
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5. Doesn't Obama have to sign a bill before it becomes law?
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 08:06 PM
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4. Obama wasn't going to let the tax cuts expire.
Congress should have given him a bill by now.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 08:01 PM
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3. We still have the Senate
and as far as unemployment benefits the republicans have to go home and face their own constituents during the break. Republicans are unemployed too. I don't think Boener wants this to be his first vote and the new teabaggers in congress won't vote for it so they need dems most likely to pass it if it doesn't get done before that.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 08:09 PM
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6. I was talking to a republican friend of mine earlier.
She's pissed that the GOP gave into Obama on UI first thing after taking office. It was a campaign promise that they cut them and she wanted the deal to explode.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 08:26 PM
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13. facts in the face of so much anger -- it is incredible how reactive the President's supporters have
become in the face of disagreement about policy
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 08:39 PM
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14. Not really
We only have the Senate on paper. The "blue dogs" vote with the Repiggies every time it really matters, so they have a working majority, and have had for years, even when we supposedly had 60 seats.


and as far as unemployment benefits the republicans have to go home and face their own constituents during the break. Republicans are unemployed too.


If they are unemployed and still Republican, then they are too brainwashed by Faux et. al. to vote any other way.

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blazerunner Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 08:09 PM
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7. I want to know which angry congressperson said: 'F**k the President
Edited on Thu Dec-09-10 08:10 PM by blazerunner
Which Democrat Said: 'F**k the President?'

ABC News’ John R. Parkinson and Russell Goldman report:

An unidentified Democratic lawmaker let slip his frustration at President Obama’s proposed tax compromise, apparently muttering “f**k the president,” during a heated debate this morning.

As Democratic House members met this morning in a closed-door session to determine if they would vote on the compromise tax plan the White House hashed out with GOP leaders, one member forgot the Capitol’s rules of good decorum.

--snip

House Democrats decided overwhelmingly to reject the compromise, demanding more concessions made before it gets voted on.

The proposed package would extend the Bush tax cuts across incomes, extend benefits to the unemployed, and cut payroll taxes.

The surprise insurrection against the president seems motivated mostly by anger at extending cuts to the wealthiest Americans and a provision that would lower taxes on inherited income -- the estate tax.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2010/12/which-democrat-said-fk-the-president.html

http://www.rollcall.com/news/-201347-1.html

**added links
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 08:11 PM
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8. Hello
Welcome to DU! :hi:
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blazerunner Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 08:16 PM
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11. hey, thanks!
Back at you-- :hi:
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 08:11 PM
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9. I'v been saying that forever...but don't let that stop the hate. n/t
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blazerunner Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 08:15 PM
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10. oops wrong place
Edited on Thu Dec-09-10 08:15 PM by blazerunner
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 08:20 PM
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12. Agree! Attempts to lay this entirely at the President's feet appear suspicious
Edited on Thu Dec-09-10 08:24 PM by patrice
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 09:48 AM
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15. it's either a complete lack of understanding the legislative process, a personal grudge, or
they could be trolls.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 10:24 AM
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16. K&R
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