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ncteechur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 05:45 PM Original message |
This is quite an amazing time, indeed. Members of DU willing to kill a bill that extends |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. There you go throwing facts and reality at people. I am sure you will be punished for it |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
38. If you want facts and reality why don't you offer some? |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 11:13 AM Response to Reply #38 |
100. I'm happy with the job the OP did, but thanks for trying to tell me what I should do n/t |
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elizm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
2. Well said! nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
4. So in your world, giving in to terrorists is the correct strategy? |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:17 PM Response to Reply #4 |
22. sometimes it is. Just as Pres.Obama said. He pointed out the unreasonable |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 08:03 PM Response to Reply #22 |
54. the publics face is owned by media, and they are not on our side. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 10:18 PM Response to Reply #54 |
68. You don't think we had enough media this election when we accused the Republicans of being for the |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 07:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
50. Not negotiating with terrorists has yet to work. nt |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:05 AM Response to Reply #4 |
90. Sometimes you have to in order to save lives |
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littlewolf (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
5. and gives a club to the GOP in 2012 .... your taxes went up ... you lost UI .... etc etc |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 05:56 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. as opposed to the *your taxes WIIL go up* club he is giving them now? |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
7. There are so many things wrong with this bill it's like |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
8. k/r for a reality-based perspective outside the bubble. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
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Union Scribe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:57 PM Response to Reply #8 |
42. Oh look the word of the day. |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 10:44 PM Response to Reply #42 |
70. I most certainly did! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:09 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. For Forty Percent Of The Uninsured Unemployment Insurance Represents Ninety Percnent Of Their Income |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:36 PM Response to Reply #17 |
31. It will provide a miniscule boost for a short time |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
10. s/del dupe |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
11. *SIGH* |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
12. Takes more than a civics book to get things done. |
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ncteechur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 10:48 PM Response to Reply #12 |
71. Um, Jim Bunting already blocked UI one time. They don't care about UI or being unpopular. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
13. Meh. It's just the usual wedge-driving by keyboard commandos |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
15. hard words, but true- |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
16. Yes, damn members of DU for not liking Bush tax policy. NM |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:10 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. I don't believe the OP said anything about "liking" - |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:23 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Obama says he doesn't like it... |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:29 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. you seem to think this is a dictatorship. It isn't. I don't understand |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:35 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. What? |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:44 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. I think the Pres. is pretty frustrated by this too- but what is he to do? |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
19. It's a bad deal.. |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
20. eating your seed corn is a bad idea. nt |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:19 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Where Did This Fetishization Of The Deficit Come From? |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:33 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Who knows? It's silly isn't it? |
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ChimpersMcSmirkers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 09:14 PM Response to Reply #23 |
60. Critics around here will take anyones argument and try to use it. Lot's of Ron Paul |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 09:18 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. This Recession Has Cost The Economy Two Trillion Dollars In Aggregate Demand |
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ncteechur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 09:12 AM Response to Reply #20 |
97. so is eating your own or screwing some of our most vulnerable to screw the other side. |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
21. please don't count me in that selfish group |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
24. "because they can't stand that the rich get something too"... |
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democrat2thecore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:54 PM Response to Reply #24 |
40. Absolutely. And why not fight and put the Republicans on record |
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ncteechur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 09:13 PM Response to Reply #40 |
59. They are already on the record. They have been on the record and the STILL won in November. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 07:59 AM Response to Reply #59 |
95. They won because Democrats didn't fight. So, a lot of people |
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ncteechur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 09:16 PM Response to Reply #24 |
61. Then why extend unemployment or give the middle a tax cut period. All dems are in favor of that. |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 11:01 AM Response to Reply #61 |
99. Why extend unemployment? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
26. Yep. Retribution and making someone pay is key..... |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:36 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. It is sad. |
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unapatriciated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 08:03 PM Response to Reply #26 |
55. It has nothing to do with getting even, it's about stopping the erosion of.... |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 11:11 PM Response to Reply #55 |
74. A better bill isn't coming. A worse one will. They will probably tack on something so the House |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
28. I wonder how many of the unemployed whose benefits will run out would favor killing the bill? |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:36 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Ask the Republicans why they support the rich over the poor. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:52 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. this was Pres.Obama's talking point at the press conference, but |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 07:53 PM Response to Reply #32 |
53. The way it stands it's 6 of one, half a dozen of the other. |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:39 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. Exactly. I doubt that any of those who say "let them expire" have rent or food depending |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:56 PM Response to Reply #28 |
41. Most unemployed people don't have UI. n/t |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 07:15 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. So hey, let 'em ALL swing while we play political football? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 07:41 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. It's not "political football" to stop the sucking dry of our economy |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 10:43 PM Response to Reply #48 |
69. Spoken like someone who can pay their bills. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:04 AM Response to Reply #69 |
87. Again, you couldn't be more wrong. I can't pay my bills |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 07:51 PM Response to Reply #41 |
51. I know. I'm unemployed and I don't, but I wonder about those affected by this bill |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 12:36 AM Response to Reply #51 |
86. It's a no-win situation. If they get their UI |
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ellie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
34. No kidding |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
36. Kick, Rec. It's amazing how the smugness just drips through the keyboards of those who, as you say, |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
43. I favor letting the tax cuts expire and preventing cuts that cost jobs |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 11:21 PM Response to Reply #44 |
75. "The GDP"? |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
46. The bill harms the unemployed |
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elizm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 09:03 PM Response to Reply #46 |
58. Don't know if you are an economist or not.... |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 11:35 PM Response to Reply #58 |
77. I agree with the compromise but I see his point... |
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Pistarkle (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
47. Right On! |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
49. Capitulationist thread number 274 |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 09:55 PM Response to Reply #49 |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 10:18 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. 'either' |
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ncteechur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 10:51 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. Since your post consisted of yawn- my response was perfect just the way it was. |
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unapatriciated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
52. Maybe some of us stand with Bernie and the CBC |
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ncteechur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 09:25 PM Response to Reply #52 |
63. Did Bernie (and I love Bernie) vote for the first stimulus? |
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InvisibleTouch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
56. That's amazing to me too. |
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jtuck004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 07:15 AM Response to Reply #56 |
94. Respectfully, if one listened to Senator Sanders it does not |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
57. Amazing all right. Members of DU willing to argue for a republican bill. |
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ncteechur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 09:31 PM Response to Reply #57 |
64. There are plenty of parts that we dems want too. why do all bills have to be one sided? |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 07:09 AM Response to Reply #64 |
93. Too surface thinking. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
65. K&R up to 1. I've been posting similar posts all day. I can't believe what's going on! n/t |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
72. It's not the extending of tax cuts that bothers me, its the Social Security contribution cut |
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ncteechur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 11:23 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. I get your concern. Randi Rhodes explained the SS thing yesterday. |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 11:42 PM Response to Reply #72 |
79. I understand that. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
78. Don't confuse the demagogues with facts nt |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
80. This place has gotten all fucked up. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 09:15 AM Response to Reply #80 |
98. I know. All these supposed Democrats |
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akbacchus_BC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
81. Correct me if I am wrong, didn't President Obama wanted this passed |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 12:19 AM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Yes, people like to ignore that inconvenient fact. n/t |
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akbacchus_BC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 12:23 AM Response to Reply #82 |
84. That is what is so amazing but the chickenshits are at work. You have |
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ncteechur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 12:23 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Yes, that was his timetable. Now he and we are painted in a corner. |
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akbacchus_BC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 12:30 AM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Never mind, President Obama will Prevail! I believe in him and he will |
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damonm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:05 AM Response to Original message |
88. Too bad I can't rec this about 5 million times... |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:52 AM Response to Original message |
89. K&R! Spot-on rant! |
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Citizen Kang (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 05:12 AM Response to Original message |
91. Did you support the Bush tax cuts last time? |
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ncteechur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 09:11 AM Response to Reply #91 |
96. I did not. But that was when we had a surplus, and we didn't have this crazy unemployment, and |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:44 PM Response to Reply #96 |
101. "But that was when we had a surplus" |
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cornermouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 06:27 AM Response to Original message |
92. I don' t hate him. I never have. |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
102. Whether it's a Democratic plan or a Republican plan, extending |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:15 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. Those Are Good Ideas |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 05:26 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. Promise them anorexic ponies? |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 05:31 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. Because They Are As Sincere About The Defecit As The Dems Are |
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